Street fighter 6 is little too oppressive

[ndeke]

Greetings all. Let me first say that I really like sf6, I have 700 hours on the game. I'm trying to get my boy Akuma to masters and improve my ken as well who I already got to masters in season 1. Second of all I'm no poet with the pen, but I will try my best to describe my issues with sf6. third of all I'm not the type to throw my controller out the window if I lose. If I made mistakes in a match or was just out class then I should lose and learn from my mistakes and opponent. That what my big brother taught me.

Sf6 in my opinion is not a broken fighting game like dnf duel or a bad fighting game like mk1. But I feel there certain things about the game that are little too oppressive. I'm not talking about scenarios where you get your ass kicked because you were burnt out. In those scenarios you should get your ass kicked. I'm talking about things like drive rush as a neutral tool, the buffer system(accidental specials/finishers or the buffer window closing because of raw drive rush ) and certain characters' buttons like some of bison's buttons/specials (you know the ones).

I don't want capcom to nerf drive rush into the ground or heavily nerf certain characters like they did to poor ryu in sfv season 3. I just want capcom to tone down certain elements that are oppressive to level which is more manageable.

What are your guys opinion on this matter or should I just GET GOOD.

[Jirai]

I'd say GET GOOD and adapt to the things being in the game or let it be and stop complaining about chars you are not good against. And crying out loud for scissor kick nerf is not very intelligent. If they nerf it, Bison is dead. Please think about the technical aspects first before throwing in opinions. I really hope Capcom doesn't nerf things because some people can't manage these things.
I for myself find driverush pretty nice and DI isn't a problem as well. Perfect parry on wakeup that turns automatically into perfect parry when your opponent hits meaty on the other hand is massively scrubby because it makes meaties obsolete.

Additionally I think MK1 is pretty nice.

Edit: I really do not know why people these days are so soft when it comes to FIGHTING GAMES. But its everywhere. People nowadays prefer to cry instead of taking a game as it is and labbing the **** out of it like we used to do since years.

[Jirai]

Originally posted by Ron:

Originally posted by Jiraishin:

And crying out loud for scissor kick nerf is not very intelligent. If they nerf it, Bison is dead. Please think about the technical aspects first before throwing in opinions. I really hope Capcom doesn't nerf things because some people can't manage these things.

Any character should have moves you can spam over and over safely. Fancy words aside like "understanding the technical aspect of it " lol, in my opinion every special that can be "looped", whether if your rival is in burnout or not, should have more pushback or should not be gapless. What's the point of interactions that no matter when or what button you press, the game doesn't allow you to take your turn back.

it does did you ever heared of lvl 1 or lvl 3 or neutral jump etc.? I am not here to discuss the Bison thing because its really exhausting telling beginners thats its up to them to lab and not up to capcom to nerf bison.

[q0de]

Even pros say this game is inconsistent, the biggest factor imo is drive cancelling, any mongo can take 40% of your life bar on one lucky hit or trade, it's just stupid. Watch how we'll all suck at SF7 because we lost the ability to hit confirm into combos simply because in this game, NOT drive cancelling would be stupid
Also the mental stack when you're in the corner is out of this world, I'm still not used to it

[Selphea]

I have a feeling it's for eSports, to make matches faster-paced. High level SF6 doesn't have the same zoning wars you see in 5 or 4.

It's a trade-off for sure, the learning curve for intermediate players is steeper. I personally agree it's oppressive. But 400k peak views at Evo 2 years in a row is hard to argue against.

[ndeke]

Jiraishin I'm not saying that sf6 is bad game or impossible to adapt to. I just think the game would be more fun and interesting if the oppressive things just toned down a little not a lot just a little. I personally feel like raw drive rush is sometimes a coin flip if not suicide when you are trying to stop it consistently. If capcom doesn't change it , sf6 will still be a good fighting game, but think they should for like season 3 or what ever. I still think mk1 is bad but if you like it, then good for you I guess.

[Kirkis]

I mean the game is broken imo. The drive rush eats inputs as it stands and that's unacceptable. So that needs a rework.. I certainly wont be back in the game until that's addressed.

[Peddie]

See you in SF7~

[DinoRex79]

Even Justin Wong said during a live Evo broadcast that Bison and Bison's scissor kick was cheap. He said he got Bison to masters the fastest out of all the characters because how easy it was with Bison.

[fieldmarshalbonespur69]

Originally posted by DinoRex79:

Even Justin Wong said during a live Evo broadcast that Bison and Bison's scissor kick was cheap. He said he got Bison to masters the fastest out of all the characters because how easy it was with Bison.

Justin Wong plays a different game than you or I do. If you compare yourself to pros you are going to have a bad time. Wong isn't gonna mess up spacing like 99.9% of Bison players do. He could probably get to masters without the scissor kicks...

[Peddie]

The paths a multi-Evo champion and Joe Q. Average take to Master are very different inteed. Also we really shouldn't take month 1 opinions too serious, people were still saying Manon was OP one month after launch and look at her now. Bison's winrate is only going to shrink the more the rest of the community's understanding of him grows. (Now if only I'd find him online again, funny that)

[TheG]

If i had to summarize this forum, its a bunch of hard stuck plats and diamonds telling everyone else to "git good".

[TheG]

Originally posted by Kirkis:

I mean the game is broken imo. The drive rush eats inputs as it stands and that's unacceptable. So that needs a rework.. I certainly wont be back in the game until that's addressed.

If you are playing a charge character its even worse becuase DR eats your OD reversal, and the charge.

[Peddie]

Sure is funny that a forward movement cancels out down and back charges. If only there was a way to get a new charge going while you got your opponent in hitstun... if only...

Originally posted by TheG:

If i had to summarize this forum, its a bunch of hard stuck plats and diamonds telling everyone else to "git good".

At least we can tell they actually managed to reach Plat and/or Diamond.

[q0de]

Originally posted by Peddie:

Sure is funny that a forward movement cancels out down and back charges. If only there was a way to get a new charge going while you got your opponent in hitstun... if only...

Originally posted by TheG:

If i had to summarize this forum, its a bunch of hard stuck plats and diamonds telling everyone else to "git good".

At least we can tell they actually managed to reach Plat and/or Diamond.

He means that the drive rush effect on screen eats your input, even on the defending side.

[Scrub]

Originally posted by TheG:

Originally posted by Kirkis:

I mean the game is broken imo. The drive rush eats inputs as it stands and that's unacceptable. So that needs a rework.. I certainly wont be back in the game until that's addressed.

If you are playing a charge character its even worse becuase DR eats your OD reversal, and the charge.

can you show me a single clip of this ever happening to you