Fighting Better Players and losing confidence (Platinum 1)

[Izzymiroquai1]

How can I keep trying without giving up too easily against better players than myself?

[Leto]

Цитата допису OyajiBR☕:

Try arcade mode on hard without using continues, then try on hardest mode. If you beat hardest mode you'll beat most online players.

certified bronze quote

[VaeliusNoctu]

Цитата допису Peddie:

You can only improve by playing against folks better than you. You learn nothing by fighting folks worse than you. Folks of the same skill test what you already know. So honestly, see it as a learning opportunity, see what they're doing, and afterwards, see the replay to see what mistakes you made. And eventually you'll be on an equal footing to them.

That's true if the skill level difference isn't too extreme.

But if you play against a player who puts all his free time into the game, you simply have no chance. Unless you're something like a Street Fighter Mozart who can play the game perfectly without practicing.

It's not a criticism of players who invest a lot of free time into the game. It's simple mathematics. Anyone who can and wants to play 20 hours a week will usually be better than someone who can and wants to invest an hour or two twice a week.

That's why most games have mechanisms that sometimes work better, sometimes worse, like leagues from Bronze to X. This is supposed to help divide players up in a way that makes it fun for everyone. Unfortunately, such mechanisms are often circumvented or don't always work perfectly.

So i can understand OPs argument well.

Thats one reason i often Play only against Bots. Very Rare Games have a Working System so you dont run to often in Players far above your Skill Level.

[Peddie]

Well I'm just speaking from personal experience, but even when I was in Silver I'd go into the Hub to fight Diamonds and Masters and I always felt it was a productive thing to do. Even if only because then playing in my own rank felt waaayyyy easier afterwards so I went on cool winstreaks for a while.

[VaeliusNoctu]

Цитата допису Peddie:

Well I'm just speaking from personal experience, but even when I was in Silver I'd go into the Hub to fight Diamonds and Masters and I always felt it was a productive thing to do. Even if only because then playing in my own rank felt waaayyyy easier afterwards so I went on cool winstreaks for a while.

Indeed Personal Experience.^^
Feelt the same in Rocket league when i start to play it and even Bronze was to hard for me.

[Cumbusted]

Look at your replays and see where you made mistakes.

Try it again in training mode, maybe you could've pressed a better button, or parried/blocked and taken your turn back, etc. You have a robust training mode for, well, training.
You'll get better, gradually we all do if we're willing to learn.

I tell you this as a complete casual for the most part.

[FAT WANZER]

Цитата допису Leto:

Цитата допису OyajiBR☕:

Try arcade mode on hard without using continues, then try on hardest mode. If you beat hardest mode you'll beat most online players.

certified bronze quote

nah if he can beat AI lvl8 who input reads and insta super with perfect whiff punish and anti air he probably platinum(bots never save super even if they can win to get gauge to next round)

[Tyrant (My Vision is Augmented)]

The answer to the question is... stop playing people that are at such a huge skill disparity to yourself.

The same way a Platinum player learns nothing from playing a Bronze player, they also will likely learn very little from playing a 2000+ Master. At least, not anything that will stick with them.

Play ranked mode, and fight a progressive stream of slightly tougher opponents. It is the mode that is intended to help hone your skills and make you better at the game. Watch videos about your character, their optimal strings, and their frame data. Watch your replays and reflect on what is losing you a given match, and then work on that thing specifically (dropped strings, meter awareness, anti-airs, react to DI, etc.). And lastly - play more frequently. Just like learning a language, you will get a lot more out of playing SF6 for 45 minutes a day, 6 days a week, then you will by playing the game for 5 hours straight on a Friday night. Frequent, deliberate, practice, focused on specific weak points that you have with a character. That's how you get better as quickly as possible.

[my butt is erect]

If you are making a topic like this you probably just make it worse. Stop having a crisis over it and making it so on your mind that you're tilted

[Doc Holiday]

Цитата допису Tyrant (My Vision is Augmented):

And lastly - play more frequently. Just like learning a language, you will get a lot more out of playing SF6 for 45 minutes a day, 6 days a week, then you will by playing the game for 5 hours straight on a Friday night. Frequent, deliberate, practice, focused on specific weak points that you have with a character. That's how you get better as quickly as possible.

This is the best advice.

[VaeliusNoctu]

Цитата допису Doc Holiday:

Цитата допису Tyrant (My Vision is Augmented):

And lastly - play more frequently. Just like learning a language, you will get a lot more out of playing SF6 for 45 minutes a day, 6 days a week, then you will by playing the game for 5 hours straight on a Friday night. Frequent, deliberate, practice, focused on specific weak points that you have with a character. That's how you get better as quickly as possible.

This is the best advice.

Not really. There will always be players who play at a certain level because they don't have the time or the will to invest more free time.

Well, honestly, I don't watch replay videos to improve my technique. Or train for 45 minutes every day just to avoid losing practice and falling behind.

Maybe I would have done that 20+ years ago. But now I don't have the nerves, time or desire for it.

And no, that doesn't mean that everyone who does that is young and immature. After all, I still play and the difference between someone who trains a game and someone who plays it casually is a matter of taste and spare time.

But that's exactly why you can't say practice.

It would be nice if there was a league for eternal noobs like me. I admit that I'm a noob and I want to have fun, which is why I play against bots.

But it would also be cool to play in a league with lots of noobs. Unfortunately, that won't work because there are always trolls who would enjoy sneaking into the noob league and taking down noobs.

[Doc Holiday]

Nobody is an eternal noob, the human brain isn't static.

[VaeliusNoctu]

Цитата допису Doc Holiday:

Nobody is an eternal noob, the human brain isn't static.

Wrong, of course you learn a little even if you don't play much. But your skill level doesn't change that much.

I'm speaking from experience because if I play Rocket League irregularly, I'm so out of practice that I have to play regularly again to be able to really get involved.

You don't forget everything if you play irregularly, but you lose practice. So you can be an eternal noob.

It's like any game with PVP, in order not to be a noob you have to keep practicing, especially in games with combos or timing.

Even with modern controls you have to think about when to use which combo under time pressure. Nothing goes away faster than combos or the feeling of timing. A few days' break is enough.

[X]

Loosing to better players is easy, try losing to worse players for a big confidence boost.

[Bumblescrump]

Цитата допису VaeliusNoctu:

Цитата допису Doc Holiday:

Nobody is an eternal noob, the human brain isn't static.

Wrong, of course you learn a little even if you don't play much. But your skill level doesn't change that much.

I'm speaking from experience because if I play Rocket League irregularly, I'm so out of practice that I have to play regularly again to be able to really get involved.

You don't forget everything if you play irregularly, but you lose practice. So you can be an eternal noob.

I mainly play SF6 as far as fighting games go, I also play a bunch of other games on the side. Some things carry over, some things don't, some things I forget or remember mid match or after getting caught. I still play ranked in those games and I still improve, albeit slowly. The key is finding enjoyment win or lose and enjoying the process of figuring out what to do. If you enjoy the process and don't worry about the other things it is much more enjoyable to play casually or "as a noob." Now I am trying to learn hitbox and losing to a lot to things that were second nature before, but I am enjoying the process.

[Doc Holiday]

Цитата допису VaeliusNoctu:

Цитата допису Doc Holiday:

Nobody is an eternal noob, the human brain isn't static.

Wrong, of course you learn a little even if you don't play much. But your skill level doesn't change that much.

I'm speaking from experience because if I play Rocket League irregularly, I'm so out of practice that I have to play regularly again to be able to really get involved.

You don't forget everything if you play irregularly, but you lose practice. So you can be an eternal noob.

It's like any game with PVP, in order not to be a noob you have to keep practicing, especially in games with combos or timing.

Even with modern controls you have to think about when to use which combo under time pressure. Nothing goes away faster than combos or the feeling of timing. A few days' break is enough.

Wrong. There are games that I haven't touched in 5 years, and if I pick up today, even while rusty, I will crush any noob that is playing it for the first time.
With 20 minutes of daily (or even 3 times a week) Ranked play anyone will improve.