New Win Rate Stats Came Out Today, Bison Dominates!

[Dtony]

Not a single losing matchup in master ranked matches(Control Type Total)

https://www.streetfighter.com/6/buckler/stats/dia

[Everchosen]

Worth noting Akuma was in a similar position as of May 2024 by that criteria, but is now second to last.

I'd anticipate Bison will drop off in the next compilation.

[timemystic]

COLOR ME SURPRISED that the BEST character by a WIDE margin has the highest win rate like wha?
(Bipson worst MU is Gief at 5.0 essentially even MU Giefs rise up)

[timemystic]

Originally posted by Everchosen:

Worth noting Akuma was in a similar position as of May 2024 by the two criteria, but is now second to last.

I'd anticipate Bison will drop off in the next compilation.

How is Akuma at the 2nd to last isn't he quite good and high damaging character? The pro's use em.
Lmao at Sim vs Bipson is at 1.65. Sim being slow is like training dummy for Bipson.

[Peddie]

Ken's had sub 50% winrates in most ranks since the beginning, he was still considered top tier because how 99% of the player pool experiences the character is irrelevant to how the pros experience them.

That said, Everchosen is correct, next month Bibson's winrates will be considerably lower as by then more people will have figured out the match-up. So even if Akuma is top 5 material for the pros, most of us ordinary folks have figured out the match-up against ordinary Akuma players due to how popular he is and as such, his global winrate slipped below 50%.

[CHAO$$$]

Originally posted by Everchosen:

Worth noting Akuma was in a similar position as of May 2024 by that criteria, but is now second to last.

I'd anticipate Bison will drop off in the next compilation.

complete ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

Look at the stats for may
https://www.streetfighter.com/6/buckler/stats/dia/202405

Akuma barely gets to 52% overall winrate back in may in master/diamond and doesnt even make top 5 for most ranks below.

Bison sits AT OVER 60%!!!! winrate in Diamond and 57%!!! winrate in Masters.
He is top 2 in EVERY RANK from silver to masters!

That means that at the top level of online play, on average he has a 6:4 matchup against every character in the game!!! That is ridiculous!.

Stop coping and admit youre being carried harder than Lukes in S1

[Peddie]

We'll reconvene next month. If he still has over 60% winrate you can smugly go "I told you so", but in the meantime maybe learn that not everyone trying to nuance things is in fact playing the character in question.

You have to also understand that this data only comes from like 6 days of Bibson being in SF6, not nearly enough time for people to figure out the match-up. Unless you're really going to go out here and argue that in less than a week we truly exhausted the understanding of ol' Vega Dictator and how to play both as and against him.

(Also Master isn't the very top yet, now if you were to argue in Legend... maybe... personally I'd wait for some tournament results though, as that is what the game gets balanced around)

[Konossööri]

Are we going to ignore the fact that E. Honda and Dhalsim are 2nd and 3rd at master? Don't put too much stock into ranked stats.

[Gleap]

Bison is so very obviously overtuned it's crazy people are pretending it's a point of debate.

The nerf Is coming and he's likely to be a top few character even post nerf.

[Sixtyfivekills]

Maybe I only ran into mediocre Bison players, but I swear Guile is so much harder to deal with.

[mercureXI]

Originally posted by Sixtyfivekills:

Maybe I only ran into mediocre Bison players, but I swear Guile is so much harder to deal with.

The word you were looking for is "boring"

[-VAL-]

Originally posted by mercureXI:

The word you were looking for is "boring"

A win is still a win. Also, this is relative, Your misery is absolutely entertainment for Guile users.

[Tyrant (My Vision is Augmented)]

Originally posted by timemystic:

Originally posted by Everchosen:

Worth noting Akuma was in a similar position as of May 2024 by the two criteria, but is now second to last.

I'd anticipate Bison will drop off in the next compilation.

How is Akuma at the 2nd to last isn't he quite good and high damaging character? The pro's use em.

Yeah, that's what people mean when they say "the game is balanced"

Looking at the stats for matchups after Season 1, there was only an average of 10% spread across the board with character's win and loss rates in Masters.

This means, if you are a Master ranked player, and pick the absolute worst character in the entire game, you are, on average, only at a 5% disadvantage. And if you play the best player in the game, you are only at a 5% advantage. And 5% isn't exactly a lot.

So what matters most is not the "tier" of the character, but how comfortable you are using them. You see lots of pros playing "low-tier" characters and doing very well. You see pro players stick with a character they know even after they get nerfed into the ground, and still perform well.

Now, could Season 2 change this? Of course. But so far, the game has been kind of absurdly balanced thus far - one of the reasons it has had such a popular professional and tournament response over the last year.

[Mr. Bunce]

Originally posted by timemystic:

Originally posted by Everchosen:

Worth noting Akuma was in a similar position as of May 2024 by the two criteria, but is now second to last.

I'd anticipate Bison will drop off in the next compilation.

How is Akuma at the 2nd to last isn't he quite good and high damaging character? The pro's use em.
Lmao at Sim vs Bipson is at 1.65. Sim being slow is like training dummy for Bipson.

A large number of ♥♥♥♥♥♥ players use him. Win rates don't necessarily show how good a character is or isn't.

[Carmajedon]

Originally posted by Gleap:

Bison is so very obviously overtuned it's crazy people are pretending it's a point of debate.

The nerf Is coming and he's likely to be a top few character even post nerf.

yet when u tell people about it they are like noo bro hes not that good bad defense and is like?? bro alot of character have bad defense the problem is bison can just be on hte offensive wayy easier than msot people

[Carmajedon]

Originally posted by Soapy:

bison is top7-10, not more.
it's normal that at the beginning nobody knows the character and therefore will lose and it's normal that everyone plays him since he's new. It's nothing new.

aint no way in hell u belive this my bro