Bison IS pay-to-win

[cdrw2400]

There's no getting around it. Huge damage output, easy combos, priority normals, great pokes, safe specials, full screen counters / punishes invulnerable to projectiles, and loads of versatile tools for air and ground. Bison is OP.

I know people say this about every new DLC character, but this time it seems to be true. On modern controls, his medium (level 2) 3-button auto combo does over 4000 damage!

So, did this slip through quality control, or is this about sales?

[FromChaosTheory]

Origineel geplaatst door cdrw2400:

Origineel geplaatst door FromChaosTheory:

Bison has one safe special that has to be spaced in order for that to work. Just lab the character lol.

OD psycho crusher, double-knee press, and shadow rise are safe on block.

Origineel geplaatst door FromChaosTheory:

He's not easy to play with nor combos. His combos for the most part are conditional. His level 2 does a lot of damage because it only works with certain combos

Next you'll tell me you have to press certain buttons for certain moves. I got to Bison's advanced trials very easily. He has easy combos with a huge damage output.

Origineel geplaatst door FromChaosTheory:

No it did not slip past quality control. He's good but I'd rather fight him them Aki or Rashid any day of the week.

Good news: you can do that every other match - LOL

OF course EX crusher is safe you have to spend meter and all his other versions a negative without bomb.

Stop blocking his Air moves anti air him just like you anti Akuma. And anyone else who jumps. These are not safe moves. His specials are no where near safe. Saying I sat there and did nothing "why is he plus" ??????
Scissor kick is his one safe ability and it has to be spaced to be safe. So letting him control the stage and take the space back. He can't use it if you are wakling forward. It's not like he can brain dead send scissor kick over and over.

This is a fighting game bro. Just stuff him with cr.HP. It works every time. I already labbed it. The only people using his air moves are the ones who see that you don't know what to do about it lmfao. Combo trials are never hard bro. This isn't KOF 13. Now hit those combos in a real match I promise it's much harder to actually set those combos up. If you think it's not, show me different.

[FromChaosTheory]

Origineel geplaatst door Soap:

he's got no defense at all and no od dragon you need to be strong to anti-air with him

Thanks YOU!!! lol. If half these people stopped walking backwards and used Cr. HP they would see a different world.

[FromChaosTheory]

Origineel geplaatst door cdrw2400:

Origineel geplaatst door FromChaosTheory:

I don't think you know what pay to win means. This is just a salt post.

Salty about unbalanced characters. I have the season 2 pass, so have access to Bison, myself. He's OP. His combo trials were the easiest I've tried, and his damage output is crazy.

He has 4 specials and none of them are safe. One has to use OD for safe and the other has to be spaced correctly to be safe, Sounds like Bison is just good at beating bad playes.

[FromChaosTheory]

Origineel geplaatst door TheG:

Origineel geplaatst door FromChaosTheory:

Bison has one safe special that has to be spaced in order for that to work. Just lab the character lol. He's not easy to play with nor combos. His combos for the most part are conditional. His level 2 does a lot of damage because it only works with certain combos. No it did not slip past quality control. He's good but I'd rather fight him them Aki or Rashid any day of the week.

Just lab the character?

That means I have to buy the character!

Which means it is p2w from whichever side you look at it.

Or just use youtube and watch someone who has given you the free frame data. Or look at any of the thousands of free frame data websites. Do anything but whine lmfao. There is so much free information out there yet you made this comment. Try harder.

Edit: or just go play the game and stop being afraid to lose. I don't have Rashid and everytime I see him I try every option I can think of to beat some of his moves. I lose I gain experience, I win yay! Easy life. Stop being afriad to lose sometimes and just try things. I'm never going to buy Rashid but I know what works and what will not work because I'd rather know what loses then be afraid to lose.

[FromChaosTheory]

Origineel geplaatst door Purple Monkey:

Bison players know this is true but they don't want to admit it. They want to pretend they aren't being carried. So you'll get dumb comments like "skill issue" and fools giving you Jesters.

Carried by what exactly? The only thing he's good at is beating bad players lol.

[☠♤ Raell resilient ♤☠]

hey crybabies, how this is pay to win if the most strong characters in this are free?, stop crayinng bb, if you have no money to buy the char just grab deejay, or ken, guile, JP or Cammy, im top 24 Lily player of south america 1625MR stop craying about pay to win, beacuse now im a Bison Mua ha ha ha ha ah

[OtakuRaider]

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of Bison Mains here🤣

[ELDEN LORD]

u guys got akuma, wwe got bison, deal with it. just DI his scizor kick.

[cdrw2400]

Origineel geplaatst door blinkninja1:

u guys got akuma, wwe got bison, deal with it. just DI his scizor kick.

You can't. Scissor kick recovers fast enough to counter-DI.

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Origineel geplaatst door cdrw2400:

Origineel geplaatst door blinkninja1:

u guys got akuma, wwe got bison, deal with it. just DI his scizor kick.

You can't. Scissor kick recovers fast enough to counter-DI.

That's not exactly true if you di it at the right time it's possible but it's unreactable at 13 frames so you have to hard read it.

[cdrw2400]

Origineel geplaatst door Gleap:

Origineel geplaatst door cdrw2400:

You can't. Scissor kick recovers fast enough to counter-DI.

That's not exactly true if you di it at the right time it's possible but it's unreactable at 13 frames so you have to hard read it.

So you can't DI-Counter scissor kick.

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Origineel geplaatst door cdrw2400:

Origineel geplaatst door Gleap:

That's not exactly true if you di it at the right time it's possible but it's unreactable at 13 frames so you have to hard read it.

So you can't DI-Counter scissor kick.

Again only on hard read. It basically means it's a solution to people drunkenly spamming it but it's not a solution to competent use most of the time.

[cdrw2400]

Origineel geplaatst door Gleap:

Origineel geplaatst door cdrw2400:

So you can't DI-Counter scissor kick.

Again only on hard read. It basically means it's a solution to people drunkenly spamming it but it's not a solution to competent use most of the time.

A counter by definition is a reaction to something. Hard reads are not reactions but predictions. So you can't DI-Counter scissor kick.

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Origineel geplaatst door cdrw2400:

Origineel geplaatst door Gleap:

Again only on hard read. It basically means it's a solution to people drunkenly spamming it but it's not a solution to competent use most of the time.

A counter by definition is a reaction to something. Hard reads are not reactions but predictions. So you can't DI-Counter scissor kick.

You are trying to be pedantic without being accurate.

"to react to something with an opposing opinion or action
to defend yourself against something"

It's the second definition not the first.

But being pedantic just isn't a smart thing to do with any definition.

[SoulReaperAxel]

Origineel geplaatst door ☠♤ Raell resilient ♤☠:

a guy with Guile profile picture craying about Bison ksksksksk, must be a weak player, here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TRh5YHbErA you can see that Bison vs Guile is 7-3 for Guile, stupid character.

thx for verifying that ur toxic, ill make sure to add u to games block list