So is Zangief the Worst Character in the Game ?

[bruhnte_]

He has no pressure at full screen, no pressure mid screen either since his buttons are too slow to whiff punish, and then even if he DOES get close - he's dead if he makes a bad read with SPD
He has no invincible dp and his lvl1 is pretty bad
He can't even do light combos without spending bar on lariat, and btw lariat is a horrible anti air
His crouch medium kick isn't special cancellable

But somehow even with all these problems he's still fun (for me, a clueless diamond player)

Update: I reached master and I'm not having fun anymore lol this character is so hard

[Knowsome]

he makes for it with his insane damage.
level 1 got buffed, its not as bad as it used to be, his mid-screen oki is awful though. (cr.lk>cr.lp>lariat)

he is incredibly opressive on the corner though, his headbutt is one of the most plus on block moves in the entire game (+4), drains like 75% of a single drive gauge bar, and he has like 5 ways to anti-air his opponent.

he is not an honest character, and you cannot win with gief without conditioning and taking some risks with him, he has to work a bit harder than most characters to win and play dishonestly.

zangief is like a wall that punishes your opponent for making mistakes, he is unforgiving in the sense that if you dont capitalize on your opponents mistakes, you lose the match.

[Danny DeVito with a Gun]

It's debatable but I personally think so

Other contenders imo are Manon and Honda

[ELPRADO]

game mechanics doesn't favour Gief at all.

[Scrub]

Unless you people were alive during Street Fighter Alpha, this same thread gets made for every single Street Fighter, and will be made for every single Street Fighter, forever, in perpetuity, forever.

Grapplers are an archetype that will never be top tier because they bring an extra attack to the rock paper scissors gameplay.

It's a fun mechanic, it is a valid mechanic, but it must be tempered because of the inherent imbalance this extra option during the rock paper scissors represents.

There are plenty of people who are very good at this game and play zangief. If you worry about who is winning the top tournaments, you may care more about the appearance of the game than actually playing the game.

Play who you like and know that there are people playing your character who are much better than you and so there's always room to grow.

[Knowsome]

Junior, Snake eyez, Kichipa.

they are the best zangief players, while snake eyez imo beeing on top at rank 10.

[ryu600RR]

Originally posted by ELPRADO:

game mechanics doesn't favour Gief at all.

innate parry, 2hit armor, DR run up

name me another SF in history where the mechanics favor gief more
cats be tripping no clue what they'r saying

[Knowsome]

Originally posted by ryu600RR:

Originally posted by ELPRADO:

game mechanics doesn't favour Gief at all.

innate parry, 2hit armor, DR run up

name me another SF in history where the mechanics favor gief more
cats be tripping no clue what they'r saying

i think its more that gief "HAS TO" use universal system mechanics or he dosen't have a chance at all of winning, unlike other characters who can just OD or DRC combo you for 40% of your health.

while gief has to waste 50% of his bar just to get his oki going.

[Purple Monkey]

Originally posted by ryu600RR:

Originally posted by ELPRADO:

game mechanics doesn't favour Gief at all.

innate parry, 2hit armor, DR run up

name me another SF in history where the mechanics favor gief more
cats be tripping no clue what they'r saying

You have no idea what you're talking about. He was vastly superior in Street Fighter IV.

[Overcaptain]

I'd put Manon below him.

[Sir_Noob]

He's bottom 1, but the other 2 grapplers are pretty close. Basically, grapplers suck in 6.

[GraveTrail]

Clearly not a LOYAL FAN!!!!!

[timemystic]

No kim is cuz she is all mix up this and ♥♥♥♥ damage, loses and ppl hate her anyway.

[Femboy Smegma]

Originally posted by Sir_Noob:

He's bottom 1, but the other 2 grapplers are pretty close. Basically, grapplers suck in 6.

They suck in every game, its the nature of grapplers