Another complex character?

[SaiBot]

Why are all DLC characters marked as complex? How about a normal or easy one?

[s4brface]

the difficulty really doesnt mean anything in my experience

[Cybersyn]

They're all easy once you learn them :)

[Tsaalyo]

Whether a character fits your natural playstyle matters way more than some arbitrary ranking of how difficult the devs claim a character is.

[Grimoirian]

Originally posted by SaiBot:

Why are all DLC characters marked as complex? How about a normal or easy one?

Don't worry, Akuma's around the corner for all the cheesy shoto lovers and he'll be OP as always >.>

[Castyles]

Originally posted by Tsaalyo:

Whether a character fits your natural playstyle matters way more than some arbitrary ranking of how difficult the devs claim a character is.

That can be a major turn-off, though. It goes completely against what the original character was supposed to be and if the developers claimed such a thing, it's the real deal, no doubt.

I would play the game today, for example, but since I'm not in the mood to learn cOmPlEx ♥♥♥♥, I won't play it.

Anyway, I assume lots of Ed players, from SFV, obviously, will drop him on 6 due to that. Eventually.

[Cybersyn]

Originally posted by Castyles:

Originally posted by Tsaalyo:

Whether a character fits your natural playstyle matters way more than some arbitrary ranking of how difficult the devs claim a character is.

That can be a major turn-off, though. It goes completely against what the original character was supposed to be and if the developers claimed such a thing, it's the real deal, no doubt.

I would play the game today, for example, but since I'm not in the mood to learn cOmPlEx ♥♥♥♥, I won't play it.

Anyway, I assume lots of Ed players, from SFV, obviously, will drop him on 6 due to that. Eventually.

To be fair, in SFV, Ed turned out to be far more complex than any other character for pad players, which sort of flew in the face of what he was designed for. I wouldn't recommend taking the character select screen 'markings' for even a grain of salt. If you perceive quarter circle inputs to be complex, or pressing two buttons instead of one, then yeah he's definitely more complex. Everything else is just the slight variations in tools between every character.

[Frostys]

Originally posted by Castyles:

It goes completely against what the original character was supposed to be

Using the modern control scheme is the best translation of Ed's gameplay from SFV into SF6.

If the argument of complexity comes from basic execution from classic controls, then with no disrespect, practice.

[BlasiPL]

Originally posted by EH Union Jackknife:

Originally posted by SaiBot:

Why are all DLC characters marked as complex? How about a normal or easy one?

Don't worry, Akuma's around the corner for all the cheesy shoto lovers and he'll be OP as always >.>

Akuma will NOT be easy - he was not easy in SFV - he had some combinations and moves requiring precision,. Looking at alll the characters in SF6 - - I am sure Capcom will think of something weritd and complicated.

As an ED fan from SFV I must say - this one is....not aesy..first time i plyed him today was like..."WTF,,,this is too much"....but i started to feel him more and more. The double kick dash moves are a bit techical but it's just a matter of practice. I like ED :)

[timemystic]

Originally posted by Tsaalyo:

Whether a character fits your natural playstyle matters way more than some arbitrary ranking of how difficult the devs claim a character is.

"Playstyle" sure. There are really only 2 tiers of characters in this game. The characters that are worth it and the characters that are not. Mixup specialist and Ibuki main Shine is an example where he had to drop Kim to be competitively viable, in his case Chun.

The game's drive mechanics and damage/effort makes clear the few viable chars and the non viable characters.

[Agoraphobic Meep]

Dev difficutly rankings of characters is always historically pretty inaccurate. It's almost always just based on the character's execution and not much else. Devs will rank grapplers like gief and potemkin as easy due to lack of combo variety despite those being the characters that usually have the worst matchup spreads and neutral. Characters with comparatively difficult execution will usually be ranked higher even if that character's overall gameplan is easier to pull off.

It's very surface level is what I'm saying. Ignore it and just play whatever character looks the coolest to you. Playing optimally takes a backseat to looking cool and having fun.

[Obby]

Originally posted by Castyles:

Originally posted by Tsaalyo:

Whether a character fits your natural playstyle matters way more than some arbitrary ranking of how difficult the devs claim a character is.

That can be a major turn-off, though. It goes completely against what the original character was supposed to be and if the developers claimed such a thing, it's the real deal, no doubt.

I would play the game today, for example, but since I'm not in the mood to learn cOmPlEx ♥♥♥♥, I won't play it.

Anyway, I assume lots of Ed players, from SFV, obviously, will drop him on 6 due to that. Eventually.

Yes. The fans of the SF boxers, who historically have been the most difficult technical complex characters to play, are going to drop ed because hes difficult.

[人定胜天]

Originally posted by Agoraphobic Meep:

Dev difficutly rankings of characters is always historically pretty inaccurate. It's almost always just based on the character's execution and not much else. Devs will rank grapplers like gief and potemkin as easy due to lack of combo variety despite those being the characters that usually have the worst matchup spreads and neutral. Characters with comparatively difficult execution will usually be ranked higher even if that character's overall gameplan is easier to pull off.

It's very surface level is what I'm saying. Ignore it and just play whatever character looks the coolest to you. Playing optimally takes a backseat to looking cool and having fun.

Gief is listed as hard.

[GameJayRemy]

Originally posted by Frostys:

Originally posted by Castyles:

It goes completely against what the original character was supposed to be

Using the modern control scheme is the best translation of Ed's gameplay from SFV into SF6.

If the argument of complexity comes from basic execution from classic controls, then with no disrespect, practice.

This. The reason Ed was easier in 5 is because his entire character was the basis for modern controls. So if you want a similar experience, switch his controls to modern.
As far as the whole complexity thing, he's not that hard to get a decent grasp of and most of his combos that you'll actually use are not that hard.

[Agoraphobic Meep]

Originally posted by Obby:

Originally posted by Castyles:

That can be a major turn-off, though. It goes completely against what the original character was supposed to be and if the developers claimed such a thing, it's the real deal, no doubt.

I would play the game today, for example, but since I'm not in the mood to learn cOmPlEx ♥♥♥♥, I won't play it.

Anyway, I assume lots of Ed players, from SFV, obviously, will drop him on 6 due to that. Eventually.

Yes. The fans of the SF boxers, who historically have been the most difficult technical complex characters to play, are going to drop ed because hes difficult.

I dunno if anyone would call any version of rog "the most difficult", he's been pretty unanimously unga bunga in every game he's in, even 2. Dudley's always been a bit more difficult in his games though. Granted I never played rog in USF4 so maybe my knowledge is lacking.

[Agoraphobic Meep]

Originally posted by FishBunjin:

Originally posted by Agoraphobic Meep:

Dev difficutly rankings of characters is always historically pretty inaccurate. It's almost always just based on the character's execution and not much else. Devs will rank grapplers like gief and potemkin as easy due to lack of combo variety despite those being the characters that usually have the worst matchup spreads and neutral. Characters with comparatively difficult execution will usually be ranked higher even if that character's overall gameplan is easier to pull off.

It's very surface level is what I'm saying. Ignore it and just play whatever character looks the coolest to you. Playing optimally takes a backseat to looking cool and having fun.

Gief is listed as hard.

Huh, I'm remembering a different game then, I remember a fighting game with character difficulty rankings where grapplers were pretty unanimously always in the easy category.