Should I use Modern or Classic control ?

[Azure]

I bought this game and playing it with modern control for like 1 week and after that I didn't touch it for a long time due to a lot of work loads. I don't play this game that much often but decided to come back playing just to have fun. I have heard like a damage reduction on modern control, is it gonna affect the gameplay that much or I can just ignore it ? Will I get the hate if I use modern control since I see many people who doesn't like modern control. I do not want to ended up on what were happened when I played Tekken 7

Sorry if my English is poor, I didn't use English as a native language

[Many-Named]

play the game to its fullest, aka classic (imo)

[Peddie]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Buster:

Enjoy modern if you like to be one and done'd alot. Most people even if they beat you will just leave as they consider Modern unfair\cheating\not a level playing field. Some may even block you. The recent data capcom posted showed that 3\4 the base was using classic.

Since someone will ask for the data here it is.
https://www.streetfighter.com/6/contents/1st-infograph/en/

Honestly, I watch a few streamers that use people and most of their opponents run the set. I really feel like the supposed amount of people that hate Modern is grossly overstated.

[Tyrant (My Vision is Augmented)]

Two ways I like to think of it are based on time and commitment:

1) Do you want to put in more time now, or later? Modern gets you up to speed much quicker, but it makes the game substantially more challenging once you get into higher ranks and with more skilled opponents. There is no right answer here - just understand there isn't a free lunch on this. It's up to you if you'd want to put in the extra time up front, or later on.

Worth factoring in for point one, that leads to point two - will you even be playing later on? Is this a game that you'll want to even bother playing against higher-level opponents months or years from now? Modern makes sense for a lot of people because they just want to kick back, push buttons, and see cool stuff happen on screen for 30-50 hours and move on to another game.

2) What is your level of commitment? Do you plan on playing other fighting games, do you want to learn lots of characters, do you think you will be sticking with this game for a few years, do you have a history of playing fighting games, is there a desire to participate in local tournaments, etc? The classic control scheme more closely mirrors most other fighting games on the market today, and is generally considered a better "long term investment" because the skills you learn on classic controls will translate to other games. Also, if you want to stick with the game for a long time, or have a history with the franchise, classic is an easy answer here. Lastly, playing classic and going to modern is much easier than the reverse. Modern players switching to classic will have to re-learn a fairly substantial amount of their moves and combos. In short - if you plan to be really dedicated to the genre or even just this game, classic is likely your answer, but regardless, you'll want to pick an option fairly early and stick with it.

[Peddie]

But other fighting games are getting Modern control equivalents too. Unless you want to start rocking Third Strike sets on Fightcade and only want to play ~newer~ fighting games in the future, learning Classic doesn't sound like nearly as much of a requirement as it once used to.

Also I'll argue that moving from Classic to Modern being easier is frankly nonsense. I've spent some time with Modern in training mode and just cannot wrap my head around it, ancient muscle memory just keeps getting in the way. I can only applaud Haitani for switching to it and somehow getting good enough with it to make Evo top 6 in the two months there were between game release and Evo. (Which also goes to show that you really don't need to Classic if you want to be "serious" about this game, it'll be more of an uphill struggle for sure but you can get all the way to Legend with Modern if you want to)

[Konossööri]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Peddie:

But other fighting games are getting Modern control equivalents too. Unless you want to start rocking Third Strike sets on Fightcade and only want to play ~newer~ fighting games in the future, learning Classic doesn't sound like nearly as much of a requirement as it once used to.

Also I'll argue that moving from Classic to Modern being easier is frankly nonsense. I've spent some time with Modern in training mode and just cannot wrap my head around it, ancient muscle memory just keeps getting in the way. I can only applaud Haitani for switching to it and somehow getting good enough with it to make Evo top 6 in the two months there were between game release and Evo. (Which also goes to show that you really don't need to Classic if you want to be "serious" about this game, it'll be more of an uphill struggle for sure but you can get all the way to Legend with Modern if you want to)

Trick is to set up controls as close to classic as you can.

L M H SP
Assist P DI

This way parry and di input can be done the same way as with classic, since the input prioritizes parry/di over m/h. Then you need to remember to use L+M for throws, and now you're playing 3 attack button sf and have to learn to utilize sp, assist and sp+heavy.

...writing this out makes it seem like a hassle anyway. Classic is definitely more intuitive.

[Shadow The Innkeep]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Weever:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Shadow The Innkeep:

I’m new to the game too, using DS4 controller & I use Modern controls. I tried classic on DS4 controller, and I dont think it’s even possible to play classic on regular controller, let alone be efficient. I felt like controller struggled to keep up & process inputs correctly.

Of course you can play Classic on a regular controller, a lot of pro tournament players do. MenaRD won last EVO with a standard DS4/DS5 (not sure which one)

Mad respect for that person. I play modern and I was practicing some Chun-Li in training mode today. Got to Advanced section and realized I have no idea how to intentionally input ⬇️↙️⬅️ +attack or some such for her stances. I did it a few times by accident, but when I follow the pattern in practice, i struggle. Also, for some reason, Soinning Bird Kick on M just won’t go through. Another combo comes out. I’ll try again trm when i’m less tired.
Right now, can’t imagine how ppl put in Classic in a DS4.

I’m not too upset, it’s my second day playing SF6/FG game, but I wanna onow how I accudentlally did those inputs, but when I try and focus, it whiffs or controller does some other combos.

[Peddie]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Jonah:

Trick is to set up controls as close to classic as you can.

L M H SP
Assist P DI

This way parry and di input can be done the same way as with classic, since the input prioritizes parry/di over m/h. Then you need to remember to use L+M for throws, and now you're playing 3 attack button sf and have to learn to utilize sp, assist and sp+heavy.

...writing this out makes it seem like a hassle anyway. Classic is definitely more intuitive.

If I wanted to play 3 button SF I'd boot up Pocket Fighter. (Which in fairness is a very fun game, hey Capcom, make another one of those, it'll be great)

[Azure]

Thanks everyone for the kind reply, they're all helpful~

[Azure]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tyrant (My Vision is Augmented):

Two ways I like to think of it are based on time and commitment:

1) Do you want to put in more time now, or later? Modern gets you up to speed much quicker, but it makes the game substantially more challenging once you get into higher ranks and with more skilled opponents. There is no right answer here - just understand there isn't a free lunch on this. It's up to you if you'd want to put in the extra time up front, or later on.

Worth factoring in for point one, that leads to point two - will you even be playing later on? Is this a game that you'll want to even bother playing against higher-level opponents months or years from now? Modern makes sense for a lot of people because they just want to kick back, push buttons, and see cool stuff happen on screen for 30-50 hours and move on to another game.

2) What is your level of commitment? Do you plan on playing other fighting games, do you want to learn lots of characters, do you think you will be sticking with this game for a few years, do you have a history of playing fighting games, is there a desire to participate in local tournaments, etc? The classic control scheme more closely mirrors most other fighting games on the market today, and is generally considered a better "long term investment" because the skills you learn on classic controls will translate to other games. Also, if you want to stick with the game for a long time, or have a history with the franchise, classic is an easy answer here. Lastly, playing classic and going to modern is much easier than the reverse. Modern players switching to classic will have to re-learn a fairly substantial amount of their moves and combos. In short - if you plan to be really dedicated to the genre or even just this game, classic is likely your answer, but regardless, you'll want to pick an option fairly early and stick with it.

I'm only playing fighting games when I am bored or just want to playing punchy games, I don't think I will put my time for focusing on the game much since I got other things to do too lol

and yes I do playing other fighting games, I only chose to play some characters and not really interested in any local tournaments(but I can watch people plays). I am likely to focus on having fun and avoid toxic people who will ruined the game

[Azure]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Castyles:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Azure:

Also I do not mind about those ranking too since I will not reach beyond those high rank because people are way too good at it. I will most likely focus on having fun rather than being too focus on winning. I don't mind winning and losing too since it is just a video game and there will be winner and loser ahaha

Pick Modern. It depends on your region but it will usually "carry" you to Gold rank, in general.

I'll take anything they gave, no worries~ lol

[Ein]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Azure:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Castyles:

Pick Modern. It depends on your region but it will usually "carry" you to Gold rank, in general.

I'll take anything they gave, no worries~ lol

I think you would become better at the game playing classic and it would carry over to other games better. Modern is perfectly viable too so you cannot go wrong.

[Azure]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Allen:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Azure:

I'll take anything they gave, no worries~ lol

I think you would become better at the game playing classic and it would carry over to other games better. Modern is perfectly viable too so you cannot go wrong.

I'll try it when I am getting along with Modern, and try classic later. Thank you for the comment~

[Ein]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Azure:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Allen:

I think you would become better at the game playing classic and it would carry over to other games better. Modern is perfectly viable too so you cannot go wrong.

I'll try it when I am getting along with Modern, and try classic later. Thank you for the comment~

Aren't you worried you'll get a higher rank then have a hard time learning classic because your rank is higher?

[Peddie]

I personally wouldn't worry about that, you can always adjust to the new control scheme in the hub or casual matches, or even in ranked, any rank you can lose you can earn back later.

Losing is an integral part of learning, stop fearing the L, it is your best teacher.

[Ein]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Peddie:

I personally wouldn't worry about that, you can always adjust to the new control scheme in the hub or casual matches, or even in ranked, any rank you can lose you can earn back later.

Losing is an integral part of learning, stop fearing the L, it is your best teacher.

I just think it's easier to learn if you can still use ranked to do it. The hub is so random that it can make it hard to learn. Especially if you end up fighting someone who is a few mr away from legend and end up losing 20-30 times in a row.