Zangief Vs Ed.

[Teddy Roosevelt]

Ed feels like another terrible matchup in a sea of painful matchups for Zangief. Im daimond 3 and climbing fast to masters but playing against 6 eds in a row is incredibly painful. Thoughts? Ideas? Help?

[Cat on Mars]

Shallow jumps. The age old bad matchup gief tech. He can't AA and you are just in range of your big buttons. Even if he pushes you out after, that goes both ways. He's pushing himself back.

Play patient and be aggressive with your health. He can't zone you walking forward and blocking without giving up space.

Point blank, learn your option selects to beat EX DP. I'm talking meaty light and shimmy SPD.

[CrAZYVIC.]

The best thing you can do is to come to terms with the fact that 90% of the roster has an advantage over Zangief and are bad matches for our beloved Russian Bear. That way, your mental burden will be reduced.

[Teddy Roosevelt]

Originally posted by Cat on Mars:

Shallow jumps. The age old bad matchup gief tech. He can't AA and you are just in range of your big buttons. Even if he pushes you out after, that goes both ways. He's pushing himself back.

Play patient and be aggressive with your health. He can't zone you walking forward and blocking without giving up space.

Point blank, learn your option selects to beat EX DP. I'm talking meaty light and shimmy SPD.

You cannot control your jump arc in any way right? So by shallow jumps do you mean only jumping if he backs really far away?

[Cat on Mars]

Originally posted by guns:

Originally posted by Cat on Mars:

Shallow jumps. The age old bad matchup gief tech. He can't AA and you are just in range of your big buttons. Even if he pushes you out after, that goes both ways. He's pushing himself back.

Play patient and be aggressive with your health. He can't zone you walking forward and blocking without giving up space.

Point blank, learn your option selects to beat EX DP. I'm talking meaty light and shimmy SPD.

Can't he just medium dp?

The point of a shallow jump is that you aren't in range for your own jump ins, but you are in range for your grounded normals with more range. For every normal range you have that he cannot medium DP to cover the same amount of range, you can shallow jump to that range. Now you are in range of normals that do win against AA buttons, and he has to back up to create the same space that was just giving you problems.

[Cat on Mars]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgFUEqE3OZI

[Trollius_Caesar]

I think the main problem I've been having with Ed is simple normal grabs. I keep thinking that the distance is right for a regular grab, but I keep missing.

[Teddy Roosevelt]

Originally posted by Cat on Mars:

Originally posted by guns:

Can't he just medium dp?

The point of a shallow jump is that you aren't in range for your own jump ins, but you are in range for your grounded normals with more range. For every normal range you have that he cannot medium DP to cover the same amount of range, you can shallow jump to that range. Now you are in range of normals that do win against AA buttons, and he has to back up to create the same space that was just giving you problems.

what happens when he stands close enough to not allow jump ins but far enough that its still a problem?

[Ad-Hoc]

Its that Low Flicker jab into Drive Rush into combo think he does that is causing me the biggest issues. Anyone figured that out?

[Chewie]

Originally posted by Ad-Hoc:

Its that Low Flicker jab into Drive Rush into combo think he does that is causing me the biggest issues. Anyone figured that out?

Don't get hit it by it

But seriously, that low flicker jab into DR is really good. I had one opponent figure that one out mid match and he abused it in his favor
Fought a lot of Eds lately, surprised to see that some of them have other characters in Master and I was able to beat them as a low Plat so that felt nice

[JaguarEX]

These Ed players I am fighting in gold are ridiculous. I can't get in, they attack so quickly, they cancel into DI instantly somehow and you can't attempt to push on them as they quick do low range attacks into a combo with small reaction time window to stop the checking. I can deal with other characters at my rank and come out on top but not Ed.

[Teddy Roosevelt]

Originally posted by Chewie:

Originally posted by Ad-Hoc:

Its that Low Flicker jab into Drive Rush into combo think he does that is causing me the biggest issues. Anyone figured that out?

Don't get hit it by it :lunar2019laughingpig:

But seriously, that low flicker jab into DR is really good. I had one opponent figure that one out mid match and he abused it in his favor :lunar2019laughingpig:
Fought a lot of Eds lately, surprised to see that some of them have other characters in Master and I was able to beat them as a low Plat so that felt nice :er_uwu:

christ that profile pic is amazing

[Chewie]

Originally posted by Teddy Roosevelt:

Originally posted by Chewie:

Don't get hit it by it

But seriously, that low flicker jab into DR is really good. I had one opponent figure that one out mid match and he abused it in his favor
Fought a lot of Eds lately, surprised to see that some of them have other characters in Master and I was able to beat them as a low Plat so that felt nice

christ that profile pic is amazing

I've never changed it since I made my account. I feel it's very appropriate now

[DJukor]

They should just give Zangief his SFIV green hand what could go wrong?
Like make it unsafe on block but an easy gap closer if you end your combos whit it.

[Tsaalyo]

Didn't Rocky beat Hulk Hogan? Makes sense that the boxer would beat the wrestler in Street Fighter.

[Cooper 🇵🇷]

ed makes me quit this game as a gief main i cannot stand fighting him and i cannot stand how annoying his character is