What's the game plan of Cammy against Honda?

[Patrol1985]

I don't know what the approach should be in this matchup - the headbutt coupled with butt drop seems to be a safe answer / attack to anything. Any tips you might share?

[Gleap]

The gameplan for beating honda at mid levels is basically the same for every character and its also the reason honda has the highest win rate at mid levels.

Perfect Parry them both head butt and butt slam is generally the correct answer. This beats anything he can do every time other than wiff a headbutt and grab. Its hard though and takes practice. if you only get a normal parry just reset to neutral and dont try to push the issue.

Other less good options include anti air them both, but with cammy butt slam in particular will cause her wiff her DP very often and punish it other times making it a risky proposition.

neutral jump + button beats headbutt if you time it right as well.

They can also both be DI'd but DI'ing is incredibly risky against headbutt and requires accurate judgement against butt slam as if hes going to land right on top or behind you will wiff the DI and die for your trouble. You can only DI headbutt if its from fullscreen and you are fast, every other scenario you die.

Be sure to pressure him once you have the advantage as his defensive options suck. His ex headbutt can be thrown and if you block it hes massively negative and you can punish it so his only real defense options are super.

His ex headbutt does beat many safe jumps though so if you know how to use those be careful.

Other than that just remember his rapid hands are nearly never safe and slowly work your way into him until you can loop some oki and finish him off

[Patrol1985]

Originally posted by Gleap:

The gameplan for beating honda at mid levels is basically the same for every character and its also the reason honda has the highest win rate at mid levels.

Perfect Parry them both head butt and butt slam is generally the correct answer. This beats anything he can do every time other than wiff a headbutt and grab. Its hard though and takes practice. if you only get a normal parry just reset to neutral and dont try to push the issue.

Other less good options include anti air them both, but with cammy butt slam in particular will cause her wiff her DP very often and punish it other times making it a risky proposition.

neutral jump + button beats headbutt if you time it right as well.

They can also both be DI'd but DI'ing is incredibly risky against headbutt and requires accurate judgement against butt slam as if hes going to land right on top or behind you will wiff the DI and die for your trouble. You can only DI headbutt if its from fullscreen and you are fast, every other scenario you die.

Be sure to pressure him once you have the advantage as his defensive options suck. His ex headbutt can be thrown and if you block it hes massively negative and you can punish it so his only real defense options are super.

His ex headbutt does beat many safe jumps though so if you know how to use those be careful.

Other than that just remember his rapid hands are nearly never safe and slowly work your way into him until you can loop some oki and finish him off

Thank you for the answer and for the time you spent to write it with such detail!

[Gleap]

Originally posted by Patrol1985:

Originally posted by Gleap:

The gameplan for beating honda at mid levels is basically the same for every character and its also the reason honda has the highest win rate at mid levels.

Perfect Parry them both head butt and butt slam is generally the correct answer. This beats anything he can do every time other than wiff a headbutt and grab. Its hard though and takes practice. if you only get a normal parry just reset to neutral and dont try to push the issue.

Other less good options include anti air them both, but with cammy butt slam in particular will cause her wiff her DP very often and punish it other times making it a risky proposition.

neutral jump + button beats headbutt if you time it right as well.

They can also both be DI'd but DI'ing is incredibly risky against headbutt and requires accurate judgement against butt slam as if hes going to land right on top or behind you will wiff the DI and die for your trouble. You can only DI headbutt if its from fullscreen and you are fast, every other scenario you die.

Be sure to pressure him once you have the advantage as his defensive options suck. His ex headbutt can be thrown and if you block it hes massively negative and you can punish it so his only real defense options are super.

His ex headbutt does beat many safe jumps though so if you know how to use those be careful.

Other than that just remember his rapid hands are nearly never safe and slowly work your way into him until you can loop some oki and finish him off

Thank you for the answer and for the time you spent to write it with such detail!

Glad to help, there's also a semi famous video of punk struggling super hard with that matchup and hes like top 10 in the world and def the best cammy in the world so I wouldn't feel too bad about it being a struggle for a while.

Usually once you learn to beat honda though you have kind of learned to beat him with the whole cast so his win rate tanks at master level and above.

Good Luck.

[Patrol1985]

Thanks again! :)