hit box

[Cokonaut]

people complain about modern control with unfair advantage but so does hit box, you get mucho macho faster directional control speed compare to other type of controllers. it's not exactly an apple to apple comparison, but still an advantage is an advantage nonetheless

***I dont use modern control or hitbox***

not really complaining or anything, I dont really care actually, just curious how people feel about it

[Everchosen]

Cheatbox is love, cheatbox is life.

Getting a leverless controller was easily the best fighting game related investment I've ever made. Now my hands/wrists don't get destroyed after a 2 hour session, and my execution is now kinda nice, instead of being hyper mid.

[Peddie]

They've been tournament legal for years so whatever advantage they bring, it is not considered great enough to remove them from competition. And we survived SFIV on Xbox where some poor bastards had to make do with the 360 D-pad versus anyone who had the sense to buy something other than that.

[processor.dev1l]

Well, I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ love my cheatbox, and for a good reason, that ♥♥♥♥ slaps harder than Will Smith protecting the "honor" of that banshee...

[Castyles]

I'd buy one if they weren't so damn expensive.

Seriously thinking about getting a crappy keyboard and remove all the keys but the ones required to play.

[Scrub]

hitboxers can walk up and block a lot easier than some 30 or 40 year old on an arcade stick, makes me jealous

i have a hitbox that I used for a short while but I found it wasn't really helping my playstyle in any way, it was just neat to be able to use

[Cokonaut]

Originally posted by Castyles:

I'd buy one if they weren't so damn expensive.

Seriously thinking about getting a crappy keyboard and remove all the keys but the ones required to play.

lol, that sounds like a great idea, plus keyboard keys can be even faster and capable of customizing it in many different ways.

[Double Jump]

I love my leverless controller (which I built by myself btw). I can only talk for myself, but playing on leverless did not make me a better player. A lot of practise did. Building the dexterity in your left hand will also take quite some time depending on your versatility.

Nontheless it is way more fun than playing on a stick and it is also absolutely superior in the comfort department to any alternative known to me.

In the end it is not my problem, that you do not play on a hitbox (just like it is not my problem what input method you use). Who are we to tell anyone how to play the game?

[Rando the Crit Clown]

Originally posted by Peddie:

They've been tournament legal for years so whatever advantage they bring, it is not considered great enough to remove them from competition.

Or it's popular enough that they don't want to ban it.

[Peddie]

Originally posted by Rando the Crit Clown:

Originally posted by Peddie:

They've been tournament legal for years so whatever advantage they bring, it is not considered great enough to remove them from competition.

Or it's popular enough that they don't want to ban it.

I think it's more that them being made tournament legal helped popularise them after the whole "cheatbox" debate went down in the mid 2010s. And seeing how we have folks like Luffy still capable of winning tournaments with an ancient PS1 controller using a converter and tons of pros still using sticks to get tournament wins, I don't think whatever advantage they might bring beyond hand comfort is great enough to warrant their removal. So far we've yet to see a situation where the majority of a top 8 is using leverless.

Originally posted by TSC:

Originally posted by Peddie:

some poor bastards had to make do with the 360 D-pad

The Legend says some still do that. I've done all Zangief classic combo trials with d-pad but that is as far as I intend to go with it.

Yo, that's incredible that you've managed to do that on one of the worst D-pads I've ever had to use.

[breast milk🥛]

Originally posted by Castyles:

I'd buy one if they weren't so damn expensive.

Seriously thinking about getting a crappy keyboard and remove all the keys but the ones required to play.

this is a good idea. I play on keyboard but just use Insert, Home, PgUp for light, med,heavy punch, and delete, end, and pgdo, for kicks since they're off on their own. So much more comfortable than when I played on controller

[jyuuu]

Originally posted by breast milk🥛:

Originally posted by Castyles:

I'd buy one if they weren't so damn expensive.

Seriously thinking about getting a crappy keyboard and remove all the keys but the ones required to play.

this is a good idea. I play on keyboard but just use Insert, Home, PgUp for light, med,heavy punch, and delete, end, and pgdo, for kicks since they're off on their own. So much more comfortable than when I played on controller

pretty nice, i use the numberpad
kicks on 123, punches on 456, macros for grab parry and di on 789

[Double Jump]

Originally posted by breast milk🥛:

Originally posted by Castyles:

I'd buy one if they weren't so damn expensive.

Seriously thinking about getting a crappy keyboard and remove all the keys but the ones required to play.

this is a good idea. I play on keyboard but just use Insert, Home, PgUp for light, med,heavy punch, and delete, end, and pgdo, for kicks since they're off on their own. So much more comfortable than when I played on controller

Just keep in mind that most crappy keybords lack n-key-rollover when attempting this.

[Syranith]

Originally posted by Castyles:

I'd buy one if they weren't so damn expensive.

Seriously thinking about getting a crappy keyboard and remove all the keys but the ones required to play.

Get a fightbox they have a sale going on. The f1 is a more traditional sanwha caps and the b1 is the other traditional and the b1 has key switches. Just ordered mine you can get custom art for 10 usd for the first order which is really cool.

[Archiduque Motoko]

People who complain about leverless controllers need to try them out they're not easy at all, you might have cleaner inputs but you need a lot of practice, like months actually.

[processor.dev1l]

Originally posted by MotokoSan:

People who complain about leverless controllers need to try them out they're not easy at all, you might have cleaner inputs but you need a lot of practice, like months actually.

It's not that bad. It takes around a week to learn to jump properly and around 3 weeks for human brain to make this new skill permanent.