Has Platinum Rank become extremely hard lately or people are just smurfing?

[oktchau]

I used to win around 50% of the ranked matches, now it's 35% on a good day.

If people on Platinum got ridiculously better on the last 2 months and the bar is waaay higher now, I guess it's just a matter of throwing 100 matches in a row to go down to a proper rank.

But if it's just master players picking new characters and bulldozing their way through the ranks, Capcom needs to urgently add bonus streaks on Platinum because being always outmatched is incredibly boring.

[Qosmiiio]

Kinda both, depends on where in plat. Masters iirc can only be placed at a minimum of plat 3, so if you're around there maybe you're running into masters that did super poorly on their placements. However, we're a couple months out from the game's release and the main people that stick around are the ones actively playing the game and trying to get better, so the overall skill floor rises.

Bonus streaks in plat wouldn't solve anything because then it would concentrate the player base into diamond 1 rather than plat 1, and create the same issues plus more. If you're losing way more than you're winning in plat, you'll probably fall down to the gold 5/plat 1 boundary which is where you would belong anyways since the winstreaks in gold will boost you to plat, but then losing will bump you back down to gold and the cycle continues. The only people that are able to climb out of plat are the ones with a consistent 50% winrate

[Ahriman]

most of the casual players probably moved on and only come back to try out DLC or big updates, the only people left are improving steadily so the overall skill level increases.

[level3]

引用自 oktchau：

If people on Platinum got ridiculously better on the last 2 months and the bar is waaay higher now

It is. Plats are nothing they used to be. There are plat5s better than early diamonds. Why? Simple: people picking secondaries etc.

[Richer]

Yeah, I'm having a hard time in Plat right now.

Yesterday afternoon, I started playing ranked at 1517 LP, and ended my ranked session with the exact same number.

Although, not long ago I was at 13** LP, so there is *some* progress...

[Holografix]

The longer SF6 is out, the higher the skill floor rises.

Platinum 2 months ago, is not the same league as it is now.

[oktchau]

引用自 Imperial：

Plats are nothing they used to be. There are plat5s better than early diamonds. Why? Simple: people picking secondaries etc.

I'm at Plat 5 for a few months now, but lately I've been going against so many Plat3 or Plat4 players WAY above my level. It should be so easy to solve this by simply adding streak bonus to quickly bump the better players to better ranks.

I guess I'll probably drop Ranked and just play on battle hub until Capcom figure this out, but I fear that by then most casuals like myself will have dropped the game.

[Archiduque Motoko]

Stop with smurfing ghosts, you're just not pretty good at the game.

[Everchosen]

引用自 oktchau：

引用自 Imperial：

Plats are nothing they used to be. There are plat5s better than early diamonds. Why? Simple: people picking secondaries etc.

I'm at Plat 5 for a few months now, but lately I've been going against so many Plat3 or Plat4 players WAY above my level. It should be so easy to solve this by simply adding streak bonus to quickly bump the better players to better ranks.

I guess I'll probably drop Ranked and just play on battle hub until Capcom figure this out, but I fear that by then most casuals like myself will have dropped the game.

It's only going to get worse, streak bonuses are what actually created this problem. The casuals you referenced have already dropped the game, or never really ♥♥♥♥♥♥ with ranked to begin with.

Ranks are hyper inflated, and are likely starting to go through some form of normalization. The only thing that can fix this would be a hard reset and removal of streak bonuses starting in Silver.

TL:DR Free lunches are going to become increasingly rare in this game as the aggregate skill floor rises, and casuals leave the game.

[level3]

引用自 oktchau：

引用自 Imperial：

Plats are nothing they used to be. There are plat5s better than early diamonds. Why? Simple: people picking secondaries etc.

I'm at Plat 5 for a few months now, but lately I've been going against so many Plat3 or Plat4 players WAY above my level.

I'm stuck at D1 with gief and yesterday a good aki showed up. I was like "wtf, bro never D1". Turns out it was luffy. And then i was like "wtf, was that THE luffy?????". I'm ALMOST sure that he was, since his manon had 150k lp. Now imagine how many high diamonds land in plat5 just because theyre fooling around with a new toon.

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

I know the struggle the 3 characters I play are gold 5 to plat 2. I can generally easily beat the golds but if the plat is truly plat I'm gonna get destroyed. The plats I beat are often low playtime and have been placed too high. So I'm sorta stuck I win enough of my matches that I keep ending up in plat on the 3 but I really can't consistently compete. Its really odd for Luke I'm winning 56 percent of matches he's my lowest at gold 5 and yeah I can win 40 percent of my plat matches but that doesn't mean I'm plat. I'm to experienced to be in gold but my combo's aren't consistent enough to win over 50 percent in plat. Stupid fingers means I drop to many combo's the answer is repetition but I may just not have the reflexes to go higher it is what it is. It doesn't help that you can be winning 48 percent like I am on Ryu and keep climbing. Something seems off about that.

[Everchosen]

Reflexes are kind of overrated, and a lot of what people attribute to reflexes are just hundreds, or thousands of hours worth of experience, coupled with spacing and knowing what your opponent can and can't do in certain scenarios, or what they will probably do in others.

It's worth noting that your physical reflexes peak in your early to mid twenties. A lot of pros are past their physical peak, but still have cracked "reactions" largely as result of muscle memory and efficiencies gained in thought processing via experience and practice.

[toasted]

what if you just got worse?

[Castyles]

Lately? Online-wise, the whole game turned to ♥♥♥♥ within a month, especially the Hub.

Plus the ranking system doesn't do any favours, either. Always assume you're playing against a smurf.

[oktchau]

引用自 Everchosen：

It's only going to get worse, streak bonuses are what actually created this problem. The casuals you referenced have already dropped the game, or never really ♥♥♥♥♥♥ with ranked to begin with.

Ranks are hyper inflated, and are likely starting to go through some form of normalization. The only thing that can fix this would be a hard reset and removal of streak bonuses starting in Silver.

How so? I mean, the only thing streak bonus do is take the players that clearly do not belong on that rank and bump them up faster, so they don't keep ruinning everyone else's experience. I see no reason why Capcom removed it after Gold. The longer better players stay in the wrong ranks, more people will drop the game for having a frustrating experience.

The USF4 system of matching through PP (Player Points) made so much more sense.

[oktchau]

引用自 MotokoSan：

Stop with smurfing ghosts, you're just not pretty good at the game.

You seem miss the point. "Getting good" doesn't mean more wins. It just gonna make me win enough to rank up and lose for different reasons, like instead of losing for dropping a combo I'll lose for not perfect parrying 30 times per set like Kakeru X AngryBird.

The winning rate should still be around 50% forever, regardless of the skill level. Ranks are not "placement" but "weight class". This is what makes the game fun and what the ranking system should be doing.