When is Poison coming out?

[Shortycake]

I want to play as Poison.

[Machuwery]

FembyCat a écrit :

Elemental Seraph a écrit :

Yeah, that was confusing part, as the US looks for any excuse to have a character be trans. she has always been a woman in every sense. looking at her as a "trans character" is just odd.

I mean the character is referred to as a "newhalf" for Final Fight.

According to the book All About Capcom Head to Head Fighting Games and Final Fight director Akira Nishitani, the characters were originally planned to be cisgender women, but were changed to "newhalfs" (a Japanese slang term for trans women) after the game's release,[21][22] due to the suggestion that "hitting women was considered rude" in America and the concern that feminist groups would sue.[7][14] However, concept artwork included in the 2005 compilation Capcom Classics Collection of the pair specifically uses the kana for 'newhalf' (ニューハーフ), contradicting the statement the change occurred post-release.[23] In 2007 Nishitani stated that he supposed the character "could be male", but added it was up to the viewer to decide.[7] He later clarified in a discussion on Twitter that in his personal view Poison was a woman.[24] Yasuda himself commented that as far as her gender, he considers her transgender in North American localizations, but cis in Japan.[en.wikipedia.org]

Later on we got this: Confusing the issue further, Poison’s designer Akira Yasuda considers the western version of Poison to be trans, and the Japanese version cis, according to the book Street Fighter X Tekken: Artworks. Meanwhile, Street Fighter producer Yoshinori Ono claimed in a 2008 interview with EGM that Poison is transgender in every version, but is post-op in the West and pre-op in Japan. [www.techradar.com]

So yes, Poison has been confirmed at this point as Trans by the designer and producer. Given that the producer of the game says that the Japanese version is pre-op, the most faithful version of Poison for Street Fighter 6 would be pre-op Poison with bulge. Let's go!

Yeah, lots of proof and official statement, but it seems that, in 2023, there is still some people afraid of a trans being atractive.

[Menagerie]

Machuwery a écrit :

Yeah, lots of proof and official statement, but it seems that, in 2023, there is still some people afraid of a trans being atractive.

Like seriously this forum is becoming worse than doom scrolling Twitter.

[Shortycake]

BlueFunGuy a écrit :

Elemental Seraph a écrit :

She isn't the first "trans character" capcom has never confirmed that and it's merly speculation from some desperate people. otherwise she is an actual woman.

No she is. She was first in Final Fight. Predating SF2. In the description of her in Final Fight it says shes actually trans. I could care less about identity politics or sexual preferences, but this is true.

I dont care either and her legs makes my eyes wide!!!!

[Thorley23]

Martins a écrit :

Read her page in the SFxTekken artbook, the guy who designed her (Akiman), stated that he created her as a woman, he says for some reason people in the Us like to think she is transgender, but to him she is a woman.

The problem with a lot of the information on Poison is that it's largely coming from producers and artists and those sorts of people as opposed to the actual writers.

One thing I keep trying to tell people is that Capcom did several manga series over the years as games were released that exist to fill in the various story lines and explain how this extended universe works. Final Fight, Rival Schools, and Street Fighter all exist in the same universe. The comics explain those connections as well as how the different game series inter related, who was the canonical winners, and things like that. Part of why some of the endings seem so surreal or like they are part of a story you don't know the rest of is because that was a hook to get the Japanese audience to buy the support material. It's noteworthy that some characters like "Charlie" existed purely in comic form before showing up in the video games and so on.

I mean they really did torpedo everything for SF 6 (other games as well as the support material) as far as I can tell as the whole set up is kind of ridiculous. That said to really "get" Poison as she's supposed to be in universe, your not going to get that from the original artists of the video games as they might be able to speak for initial intent, but they aren't the ones handling the universe and where the characters went, and that's where a lot of my information is from.

As far as what Poison should be like in SF 6, the horrors of it's writing aside it's being defined as "present day" and further in the future from the previous games. The "Metro City" cinematic literally references Haggar fighting the gangs off with his buddy in the intro. As such this means Poison would be the same basic age as the other main cast members. Unless they do the gene engineering thing she would be unrecognizable from the other games as she would be in like her late 40s or 50s at this point. Likewise it's far enough down the evolution of the character where even if they started as a man they would be post-op/gene engineered so no bulge.

That said, you will notice I initially said that this character would be a mess, because as you can tell from responses there are plenty of people who feel trans would be best represented by her having that bulge and not tying themselves back as described in the comics. A big issue is if they do it (the way I heard or otherwise) it's going to be controversial no matter what direction they go in. If it was me I'd keep to the integrity of the writing, but it's pretty obvious Capcom already abandoned that, so who knows what they will do if it indeed happens.

Any way it goes, whether the expansion plans I heard are real or not, I think it's inevitable she will appear, as will the other Final Fight characters, as they made a huge deal about setting the RPG mode in the same city as the games, and referencing the characters. I'd be shocked if they do not show up at some point even if all the other stuff doesn't happen.

[King Kilo]

are your lives so devoid of any meaning or personal passion that you feel the need to talk about a fictional characters genitals?

[ingosupercute]

This may be a dumb question, but can we be sure that one season will really be an entire year long?

[aNdRI3]

LX BDK a écrit :

I think she came out sometime in the 2000s, being the first trans character in a Fighting game was definitely a shakeup even if handled a bit weirdly.
(JK, I know what you mean)

Poison was an actual woman for the Japanese release of Final Fight and only stated to be a man in the western release as a female fighter was not accepted back then in the USA. She is female in both the OG game and any Street Fighter game after.

Having discussions like these is the main reason why I dislike the modern west.

[FAT WANZER]

poison will come out when the big potato HUGO come out since she is his manager

[Sm Izumi]

A joke to avoid censorship becoming a woke political thing in the future.
No devs could've forseen this level of mental illness in this clown world.

[Peddie]

Necromancing a three month old topic for some trans affirmation because why not.

[The Grin]

FAT WANZER a écrit :

poison will come out when the big potato HUGO come out since she is his manager

HUGO is fun :p