"World Tour" > badly implemented move limitation

[Billy Blaze]

You can't equip every single move from just one single char.

For example "Luke".
You can't equip his "Sand Blast" together with his "Avenger", cause both moves are made with a quarter-circle forward motion.
With the difference that one move uses the punch button while the other one uses the kick button.

I don't know if they choose to do it this way because of the Modern controls... but this is beyond stupid for anyone who wanna play this mode with Classic controls.
This mode tries to teach you some things, and I use it to get into a single fighter.
That's why I only equip moves from the Style I'm currently using.
But the system in place makes it so that I can't try a style to its fullest with this limitation.

(Playing on PS5)

EDIT: Thanks everyone for contributing to this topic!
I was worried that I'm the only one who thinks this is a problem since most people are busy playing competitive.

[Tripas]

Originally posted by Holografix:

Originally posted by Tripas:

since World Tour could be a great way to just practice a certain character.

actually, the best place to practice a character's moveset is training mode or combo trials. World Tour is more of an rpg, not really a place to "practice" with a Legendary fighter.

I never said World Tour was "the best place" to practice, just that it was "a great way" to do it. Because if you're going to be spending hours fighting people to progress in World Tour, then you're already practicing.

And I'm just saying it would be way more efficient if you could just use the full moveset of any given character, instead of the game going "yeah, we're preventing you from equipping these two moves just because screw you".

[Ployada]

There shouldn't be limitations. Imagine "Beat the opponent in Ryu Style" and you are missing 2 special moves, either Hadouken/High blade kick or Tatsumaki/Hashogeki. It's plain dumb. I can't use Hadouken & High blade kick or Hashogeki & Tatsumaki? These are bread and butter special moves that chains into combos. Doesn't make any sense. Glad that I main Chun-li and was able to use all her special moves.

[Billy Blaze]

Originally posted by Holografix:

Originally posted by Tripas:

since World Tour could be a great way to just practice a certain character.

actually, the best place to practice a character's moveset is training mode or combo trials. World Tour is more of an rpg, not really a place to "practice" with a Legendary fighter.

But this mode is way more fun than just playing practice mode all day.
In "World Tour", I can mess around a bit, have some easier fights, some harder fights... hundrets of them.
And while using the same style for these matches, I get more and more into the reach and usefulness of certain attacks.

In "Practice Mode", I have to adjust the ai and... well, let's say, it's as boring as learning another language in school.
I've learned english since 2012 simply from watching YouTube, but in school I was terrible in english and I hated it.
So the fun way didn't made my english perfect... but without that way, it would be non existent and I would try to search for help in german.

[fongher]

Yeah, I think this limitation is stupid. Every character still has access to all their moves even in modern control. You just have to use the motion. Plus some characters, like Ryu, can use both moves that uses the same motion. Ryu can both his hadoken and donkey kick and both tied to the special button.

[Billy Blaze]

Wow... now with "Dhalsim", it became uber silly.
As soon as you unlock him as a master, you get a bunch of teleport moves.
But you have to decide if you wanna use the forward or the backwards teleport... can't use both.

Seriously, who tested this system and thought it was ok?

[DJukor]

They should just add copy mode so once you max out the master you can equip its entire movset.

[Tripas]

Originally posted by DJukor:

They should just add copy mode so once you max out the master you can equip its entire movset.

But that raises two issues:
1) It means you'd spend hours playing with a half-baked version of a character, and
2) If you've mastered a particular style, chances are you'll want to switch to another style so you can start ranking that one up instead, instead of losing experience on a style which can't grow any further.

[Billy Blaze]

Originally posted by Tripas:

Originally posted by DJukor:

They should just add copy mode so once you max out the master you can equip its entire movset.

But that raises two issues:
1) It means you'd spend hours playing with a half-baked version of a character, and
2) If you've mastered a particular style, chances are you'll want to switch to another style so you can start ranking that one up instead, instead of losing experience on a style which can't grow any further.

Good god, I hate it when games do that.
"Use this in order to level it up and get the strongest version of it! But don't use it after that, cause that means, you won't level the next thing."
Way too many games do this...

[Scriptimus]

Originally posted by Billy Blaze:

Originally posted by Tripas:

But that raises two issues:
1) It means you'd spend hours playing with a half-baked version of a character, and
2) If you've mastered a particular style, chances are you'll want to switch to another style so you can start ranking that one up instead, instead of losing experience on a style which can't grow any further.

Good god, I hate it when games do that.
"Use this in order to level it up and get the strongest version of it! But don't use it after that, cause that means, you won't level the next thing."
Way too many games do this...

You can transfer xp over to other styles after maxing them.

[Billy Blaze]

Originally posted by Scriptimus:

Originally posted by Billy Blaze:

Good god, I hate it when games do that.
"Use this in order to level it up and get the strongest version of it! But don't use it after that, cause that means, you won't level the next thing."
Way too many games do this...

You can transfer xp over to other styles after maxing them.

I meant in general, I don't even wanna think about maxing out a style in this game since... well, these problems really made me wanna drop it completely.

But still, good to know!

[NeoStrayCat]

Originally posted by Rezonus:

It really does sound like this is either for modern controls or world tour is just a tutorial.

It kinda sorta/maybe feels that way, cause the "Infooencer" literally tells you this after you finish World Tour's main quest. As soon as you meet him back in Metro City - Beat Square right next to the taxi, he mentions about the Battle Hub, lol.

[A♠]

it seems intentional. just deal with it. you can use every character's moves and mix and match. you can use chun-li's style with ryu moves...

[Billy Blaze]

Originally posted by Explosive:

it seems intentional. just deal with it. you can use every character's moves and mix and match. you can use chun-li's style with ryu moves...

Nope, I surely won't deal with it and I've explained already why I don't wanna mix and match.
The devs want this to ease people into the genre (and this mode is far FAR more than that).
But what about easing someone into the moveset of a char?

I've seen a german YouTuber/Streamer who also said "Screw grinding through training mode for hours as a new person. Just use a char and play as him... often. Get the hang of it, and THAN you can start learning enhanced stuff in Training."

And the "World Tour" would be the perfect place to use a style over and over and over again... but the game won't let me use it to its fullest.

Originally posted by NeoStrayCat:

Originally posted by Rezonus:

It really does sound like this is either for modern controls or world tour is just a tutorial.

It kinda sorta/maybe feels that way, cause the "Infooencer" literally tells you this after you finish World Tour's main quest. As soon as you meet him back in Metro City - Beat Square right next to the taxi, he mentions about the Battle Hub, lol.

The name "Infooencer" alone made me skip absolutely everything this char had to say...

[Tripas]

Originally posted by Billy Blaze:

The name "Infooencer" alone made me skip absolutely everything this char had to say...

I can sympathize, every single time that guy shows up I immediately want him to just STFU. But he doesn't really take that long, and he drops a few hints every now and then, so it's worth bearing through the pain of reading whatever he has to say.

[Player Zer01]

Originally posted by Explosive:

it seems intentional. just deal with it. you can use every character's moves and mix and match. you can use chun-li's style with ryu moves...

thats not even remotely the point.