MANON OKAY???

[Gnasty Gnome]

For real ♥♥♥♥♥ i just vortex you in so i go for the grab and these ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ G noobs just jab mash and cancel my MEATY throw? If i frame trap i get a lousy jab 400 dmg combo instead of my big damage throw? BAD character. Should probably switch to CAMMY so I can SPAM buttons and win

[GiboGoblin]

git gud

[kuaikukia]

Woah first time I saw someone said Manon is bad. Lol.

The power of Manon lies through her poke + drive rush. But more important playing Manon, you can't spam every little thing cause there are so many unsafe. And yes, you also can't just command grab someone if they do jab a lot. Her command start up aren't as good as Zangief. You need to observe and act according the situation. When your opponent like to smash button, poke them out. When they playing defensive, this is when you want to mix with command grab.

[Ahriman]

Originally posted by Zekdrin:

I just wanna know how the ♥♥♥♥ to counter command grabs. The fact you can just spam her command grabs over and over without consequences is ridiculous. Honestly, there should be something to counter it but there isn't, period. Jab? Not if they time their grabs right. Can't counter grab, can't jump it cause it grabs your foot, can't footsie cause they throw you within another CG distance. Like wtf is this game dude, I'm diamond 2 and that's all I'm fighting now

without consequences? ever heard of a neutral jump? hahahaha

[see sylef]

Originally posted by Zekdrin:

I just wanna know how the ♥♥♥♥ to counter command grabs. The fact you can just spam her command grabs over and over without consequences is ridiculous. Honestly, there should be something to counter it but there isn't, period. Jab? Not if they time their grabs right. Can't counter grab, can't jump it cause it grabs your foot, can't footsie cause they throw you within another CG distance. Like wtf is this game dude, I'm diamond 2 and that's all I'm fighting now

You can dash, neutral jump, forward\backwards jump. About clipping your foot when you jump, she cant command grab airborne targets, thats why jumps work, so she must be gettign you with hit-grab, which is blockable and very punishable.

in the end its just a mind game. You beat and punish her command grabs with jumps and dashes, but she can punish and catch your jumps and dashes with fast enough attack

like after her target combos (mp mk leaves her +2 oh, and hp hp is +3oh, both are punishable on on block). so she has enough time to either command grab you or do a light combo. Light combo catches your dashes and jumps but loses to your reversals while command grabs beat your blocking but loses to your jumps\dashes. Hope it was clear enough

Many of her attacks are very unsafe and she doesnt get much oki if you backroll (no oki from hit grabs and command grabs) and almost all her pokes and target combos are very susceptible to drive impact

[Gnasty Gnome]

Originally posted by sylef:

Originally posted by Zekdrin:

I just wanna know how the ♥♥♥♥ to counter command grabs. The fact you can just spam her command grabs over and over without consequences is ridiculous. Honestly, there should be something to counter it but there isn't, period. Jab? Not if they time their grabs right. Can't counter grab, can't jump it cause it grabs your foot, can't footsie cause they throw you within another CG distance. Like wtf is this game dude, I'm diamond 2 and that's all I'm fighting now

You can dash, neutral jump, forward\backwards jump. About clipping your foot when you jump, she cant command grab airborne targets, thats why jumps work, so she must be gettign you with hit-grab, which is blockable and very punishable.

in the end its just a mind game. You beat and punish her command grabs with jumps and dashes, but she can punish and catch your jumps and dashes with fast enough attack

like after her target combos (mp mk leaves her +2 oh, and hp hp is +3). so she has enough time to either command grab you or do a light combo. Light combo catches your dashes and jumps but loses to your reversals while command grabs beat your blocking but loses to your jumps\dashes. Hope it was clear enough

Many of her attacks are very unsafe and she doesnt get much oki if you backroll (no oki from hit grabs and command grabs) and almost all her pokes and target combos are very susceptible to drive impact

lol this character is defeated by upbacking and backward recovering!!

[Jirai]

Originally posted by Gnasty Gnome:

For real ♥♥♥♥♥ i just vortex you in so i go for the grab and these ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ G noobs just jab mash and cancel my MEATY throw? If i frame trap i get a lousy jab 400 dmg combo instead of my big damage throw? BAD character. Should probably switch to CAMMY so I can SPAM buttons and win

get good manon is overpowered like hell

[ele]

If you're getting hit out of it then it wasn't meaty.

[see sylef]

Originally posted by Gnasty Gnome:

Originally posted by sylef:

You can dash, neutral jump, forward\backwards jump. About clipping your foot when you jump, she cant command grab airborne targets, thats why jumps work, so she must be gettign you with hit-grab, which is blockable and very punishable.

in the end its just a mind game. You beat and punish her command grabs with jumps and dashes, but she can punish and catch your jumps and dashes with fast enough attack

like after her target combos (mp mk leaves her +2 oh, and hp hp is +3). so she has enough time to either command grab you or do a light combo. Light combo catches your dashes and jumps but loses to your reversals while command grabs beat your blocking but loses to your jumps\dashes. Hope it was clear enough

Many of her attacks are very unsafe and she doesnt get much oki if you backroll (no oki from hit grabs and command grabs) and almost all her pokes and target combos are very susceptible to drive impact

lol this character is defeated by upbacking and backward recovering!!

yeah, its like that against any grappler