Do you think SF can finally somehow compete with Tekken, MK and others?

[Sandy]

I wait the most for Tekken 8 and my main fighting game right now is Tekken 7.
MK11 and FighterZ being my side fighting games. MK1 will probably become my main fighting game before Tekken 8 gets released.

Do you think SF finally became less of a joke of a fighting game franchise? And should SF6 become another side fighting game for me?

SF5 was atrocious. I have 98 hours in that game. So I am not sure.

[Joe Pascal]

Originally posted by Bumblescrump:

I would try Tekken but their community is awful. Swarming other games forums and telling everyone how much better Tekken is, You seem nice, though,

NGL I don't even play Tekken but just to watch tourney matches online I find it the most exciting FG to spectate.

[The Ultimate Despair]

Originally posted by Aegix Drakan:

Originally posted by Shimro:

I dig the drive system but overall it still feels like SF5. I hoped they would make SF4 as their basis.

In what way does it feel like SF5 and in what way does it not feel like SF4?

Just the way game controls? The artstyle? Something else?

Honestly, I don't see it. SFV with the weird health bar system didn't feel good. So far SF6 feels the best that SF has felt since the good old SF4 days to me.

[Teddy Roosevelt]

Originally posted by Aegix Drakan:

I can't speak for Tekken as I've basically never played the series.

But I've never found Netherrealm's fighting games all that great. Yeah, I had fun with Injustice 2's story mode, but I rapidly stopped being interested in playing the game afterwards.

The actual systems are just not fun to play around with for me.

Street Fighter was similar for me... Until now.

The Drive System is so flexible and lends itself so well to quick and snappy mindgames, and doesn't need you to do one-frame links, or ducking under every single projectile as you try to approach, etc etc.

Like... The beta convinced me that this is the second fighting game after Killer Instinct that I actually am interested in getting good at.

If you didn't like SF5, you'll stand a much better chance of liking this one. They've listened to the feedback and made a VERY different game.

I need somebody to teach me KI because i cant wrap my mind around the systems. Im decent at MK. Low plat on SF and SSGODSS (above average but not great like being in low plat) for dragon ball fighterz. If youd like to teach me let me know, we can hit discord and get some matches in.

[Bumblescrump]

Originally posted by Joe Pascal:

Originally posted by Bumblescrump:

I would try Tekken but their community is awful. Swarming other games forums and telling everyone how much better Tekken is, You seem nice, though,

NGL I don't even play Tekken but just to watch tourney matches online I find it the most exciting FG to spectate.

I played tons of tekken back in the day, it's not for me, but no actual hate to people who like it. I do think people should play the games they like.

[Lucyfar]

Street Fighter was the #1 fighting game franchise of all times, even tho SFV wasn't what people expected (i liked it) it still were

Tekken and Mortal Kombat were and will always be #2 and #3

specially now with SF6

PS: MK isn't even that good, Tekken is great tho

[Sandy]

Originally posted by twitch.tv/yolulutv:

Street Fighter was the #1 fighting game franchise of all times, even tho SFV wasn't what people expected (i liked it) it still were

Tekken and Mortal Kombat were and will always be #2 and #3

specially now with SF6

PS: MK isn't even that good, Tekken is great tho

MK is the #1 fighting game franchise of all time. SF not even top 2. Tekken is top 2.
SF only top 3. Based on the total sales of these franchises.

Unless what you said is just your personal bias.

[Lunar Shower]

Originally posted by Shimro:

Originally posted by EkajArmstroＷＡＴＣＨＴＨＥＷＯＲＬＤＢＵＲＮ:

Tournament wise SFV was already winning so SF6 will make it not even close https://twitter.com/MarkMan23/status/1630604568093671425 https://i.redd.it/mzt51jrd2hya1.png

Sales wise it's losing hard. Who cares about evo entrants.
And in your second pic sfv is behind T7.

To be fair, if we're going solely off sales, MK and the Smash pretty much crush all other competition. Tekken and SF are only relative really due to some super strong specific releases, SF2 and 4 for Street Fighter, and Tekken 3 and 7 for Tekken. The only one to have consistently high sales in recent years among the general FGC is MK, Smash being largely its own entity in all honesty.

Regardless, SF is doing plenty well, and SF5 even ended up being a successful product due to how they implemented the esports scene around it, as well as just eventually catching up on lagging sales over the years, plus dlc costumes and the like.

Really, the only metric that SHOULD matter here is whether or not you enjoy the game. If you enjoyed what you played of SF6, go for it. Personally, I love it, and this is coming from someone who was very miffed by how basic, and barebones SF5 was on launch, both in its mechanics and its actual content it had on offer. SF6 is tackling both of these problems with ease, a huge story mode for content, arcade mode on launch, even arcade game cabinets to aim for highscores, plus a create a character, something that in recent years only Soul Calibur has done in the fighting game space. The base mechanics are also pretty deep and enjoyable, drive impact, rush, and parry are plenty enough to mix up the game and how characters might normally play, plus the push and pull of the drive gauge itself.

All in all, super psyched, and if this thread isn't Steam Point bait via clown awards, then either play it if you enjoyed it, or don't. Really that simple.

[Lucyfar]

Originally posted by Aegix Drakan:

Originally posted by Shimro:

I dig the drive system but overall it still feels like SF5. I hoped they would make SF4 as their basis.

In what way does it feel like SF5 and in what way does it not feel like SF4?

Just the way game controls? The artstyle? Something else?

he wants 1 frame links back lul

so that only 0,1% of the playerbase can do combos and have fun

[The22nd]

Haha MK

[Lucyfar]

Originally posted by Shimro:

Originally posted by twitch.tv/yolulutv:

Street Fighter was the #1 fighting game franchise of all times, even tho SFV wasn't what people expected (i liked it) it still were

Tekken and Mortal Kombat were and will always be #2 and #3

specially now with SF6

PS: MK isn't even that good, Tekken is great tho

MK is the #1 fighting game franchise of all time. SF not even top 2. Tekken is top 2.
SF only top 3. Based on the total sales of these franchises.

Unless what you said is just your personal bias.

Street Fighter 2 literally defined what a fighting game should be, it's the most revolutionary fighting game of all times

I ain't talking about sales number

Quality > Quantity

Street Fighter > Tekken > Guilty Gear > KOF > Mortal Kombat

That's the order of fighting games by quality

In every corner of the world if you say HADOUKEN there will be a person who will recognize it

[Morrigan]

low iq tekken fanboys.

[Sandy]

Originally posted by twitch.tv/yolulutv:

Originally posted by Shimro:

MK is the #1 fighting game franchise of all time. SF not even top 2. Tekken is top 2.
SF only top 3. Based on the total sales of these franchises.

Unless what you said is just your personal bias.

Street Fighter 2 literally defined what a fighting game should be, it's the most revolutionary fighting game of all times

I ain't talking about sales number

Quality > Quantity

Street Fighter > Tekken > Guilty Gear > KOF > Mortal Kombat

That's the order of fighting games by quality

In every corner of the world if you say HADOUKEN there will be a person who will recognize it

It's your personal inimportant bias. SF was irrelevant for more than a decade, not affecting anything.
And SF2 is 30 years old. It didn't affect much. Even SF games that came out after it. Third Strike did poorly.

Tekken and MK are very different games and are much more known worldwide than SF. Especially MK.

[EkajArmstro ｂｒｉｌｌｉａｎｔ ｏｎｅ Ｋｉｅｒ]

Originally posted by Shimro:

Originally posted by EkajArmstroＷＡＴＣＨＴＨＥＷＯＲＬＤＢＵＲＮ:

Tournament wise SFV was already winning so SF6 will make it not even close https://twitter.com/MarkMan23/status/1630604568093671425 https://i.redd.it/mzt51jrd2hya1.png

Sales wise it's losing hard. Who cares about evo entrants.
And in your second pic sfv is behind T7.

Who care about sales? Street Fighter will always have enough players to match with, especially because it has better netcode than Tekken.

[Joe Pascal]

Originally posted by Shimro:

Originally posted by twitch.tv/yolulutv:

Street Fighter 2 literally defined what a fighting game should be, it's the most revolutionary fighting game of all times

I ain't talking about sales number

Quality > Quantity

Street Fighter > Tekken > Guilty Gear > KOF > Mortal Kombat

That's the order of fighting games by quality

In every corner of the world if you say HADOUKEN there will be a person who will recognize it

It's your personal inimportant bias. SF was irrelevant for more than a decade, not affecting anything.
And SF2 is 30 years old. It didn't affect much. Even SF games that came out after it. Third Strike did poorly.

Tekken and MK are very different games and are much more known worldwide than SF. Especially MK.

I would be surprised to find that Street Fighter is not the best known fighting game franchise in the world, even if it hasn't always been the most popular. Comparing Street Fighter to Tekken is like comparing Michael Jackson to David Bowie. We can argue all day about who the better artist was but I can bet you some hermit in the Mongolian steppes is more likely to have heard of MJ.

[Mista Ree]

Originally posted by Shimro:

SF was irrelevant for more than a decade, not affecting anything.

You're saying it was irrelevant for a decade while conveniently leaving out the fact that Capcom didn't produce new SF games for a decade.

When they did finally make a new SF game in SF4 it did affect things like Mortal Kombat for instance. According to Ed Boon the success of SF4 allowed him to convince his bosses that a classic return to form 2D style Mortal Kombat game could be successful.

If not for SF4 then MK9 would not have ended up being the game it became.

And SF2 is 30 years old. It didn't affect much.

It did affect much.

https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20230228-street-fighter-ii-the-1991-video-game-that-packs-a-punch

Even SF games that came out after it.

Were affected by SF2 still.

Third Strike did poorly.

and yet is still touted as one of the greatest fighting games of all time.

The movie Blade Runner failed at the box office but does that mean that it wasn't a good movie and didn't go on to be something highly influential? No.

Tekken and MK are very different games and are much more known worldwide than SF. Especially MK.

MK has never done well in Asian territories, so it's not more well known in Asia compared to SF.

That being said it's very impressive that MK achieves the sales numbers it does despite never catching on in the Asian market.