Why the hell this game letting characters to spamm fireballs with no cd

[Scythez]

All clowns spamming like hell. Its suppose to be a fighter game... Not a clownfest stay in the corner and spamming even this old guy new character is big joke all his attack are spam. Ken and Ryu all you hear is hadoken and shoryoken such a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. I am new to the game and really annoying to fight spammers.

[Hidebehind]

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Fireballs have too small a recovery time and are not penalized even when you use them very close. You just have to go and parry all fireballs until your opponent hits a wall, there is no other way to effectively fight fireballs in the game.
That's not the OP, confronting fireballs is just boring.

This is just not true lol

Well then you know more about this game than Daigo, because these people just parry every fireball and punish the opponent with a pre-made jump.
And yeah, how do you deal with Juri's fireball without a parry or block? If you jump, she uses DP, if you try to use Cammy's evasion, Juri will punish you with DI.

[PatrickBateman]

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This is just not true lol

Well then you know more about this game than Daigo, because these people just parry every fireball and punish the opponent with a pre-made jump.

Kens light fireball is -7 on block, medium -9 and heavy is -11. Ryus is a bit better but still 100% punishable at close range. And daigo 100% punishes fireballs in more ways then just "pre made" jump lol all I'm saying is there is many ways to deal with fireballs but you can think what you want

[Hidebehind]

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Well then you know more about this game than Daigo, because these people just parry every fireball and punish the opponent with a pre-made jump.

Kens light fireball is -7 on block, medium -9 and heavy is -11. Ryus is a bit better but still 100% punishable at close range. And daigo 100% punishes fireballs in more ways then just "pre made" jump lol all I'm saying is there is many ways to deal with fireballs but you can think what you want

Do you realize what a stupid thing you're saying? A couple of meters and you can't punish a fireball. Luke even has a combination where he uses a fireball at the end and you're unable to punish it because Luke is standing a little further away than necessary to punish it.
Juri finishes off attack combinations with a spcial move that has like -6 on the block? I don't remember, but the point is that you can't punish that move because she's standing too far away.

[PatrickBateman]

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Kens light fireball is -7 on block, medium -9 and heavy is -11. Ryus is a bit better but still 100% punishable at close range. And daigo 100% punishes fireballs in more ways then just "pre made" jump lol all I'm saying is there is many ways to deal with fireballs but you can think what you want

Do you realize what a stupid thing you're saying? A couple of meters and you can't punish a fireball. Luke even has a combination where he uses a fireball at the end and you're unable to punish it because Luke is standing a little further away than necessary to punish it.
Juri finishes off attack combinations with a spcial move that has like -6 on the block? I don't remember, but the point is that you can't punish that move because she's standing too far away.

Your wrong, I play luke you can 100% counter it in many ways. But yes there is some moves that you can space and make them safe. This isn't new to sf6, has nothing to do with saying fireballs have no counters which was the point I am saying is not true

[Hidebehind]

I pressed DI into Ryu's improved fireball at point-blank range and he punished me with his DI. Don't give me that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about fireballs being a risk.

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Do you realize what a stupid thing you're saying? A couple of meters and you can't punish a fireball. Luke even has a combination where he uses a fireball at the end and you're unable to punish it because Luke is standing a little further away than necessary to punish it.
Juri finishes off attack combinations with a spcial move that has like -6 on the block? I don't remember, but the point is that you can't punish that move because she's standing too far away.

Your wrong, I play luke you can 100% counter it in many ways. But yes there is some moves that you can space and make them safe. This isn't new to sf6, has nothing to do with saying fireballs have no counters which was the point I am saying is not true

If you are being punished for fireballs, you are a very bad Luke. He has the fastest fireballs in the game and is a DP holder. You should be a god at mid range.

[PatrickBateman]

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I pressed DI into Ryu's improved fireball at point-blank range and he punished me with his DI. Don't give me that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about fireballs being a risk.

Oh so one time you messed up timing on di and that means fireballs are just unpunishable lolol nice dude you got me

[PatrickBateman]

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Your wrong, I play luke you can 100% counter it in many ways. But yes there is some moves that you can space and make them safe. This isn't new to sf6, has nothing to do with saying fireballs have no counters which was the point I am saying is not true

If you are being punished for fireballs, you are a very bad Luke.

I didn't say I am getting punished for it. But if you do Luke's triple impact target combo into a fireball there is a gap unless you do OD. and if you do a heavy fireball to close its punishable, which is what this argument was about, fireballs can be punished weather you want to admit it or not lol

[Hidebehind]

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If you are being punished for fireballs, you are a very bad Luke.

I didn't say I am getting punished for it.

That's what I was talking about.

[PatrickBateman]

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I didn't say I am getting punished for it.

That's what I was talking about.

I'm not getting punished because I'm not throwing unsafe fireballs lol it's a skill issue bro that is all

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That's what I was talking about.

I'm not getting punished because I'm not throwing unsafe fireballs lol it's a skill issue bro that is all

So you don't use fireballs when the enemy is within fist striking distance? Is that the unsafe distance? Wow! That changes everything! But the rest of the time you just use fireballs and step back xD
Man, I've played against a huge number of Luke's and I don't need to see you play to know exactly what you do and how you play. All shoto play exactly the same.

[PatrickBateman]

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I'm not getting punished because I'm not throwing unsafe fireballs lol it's a skill issue bro that is all

So you don't use fireballs when the enemy is within fist striking distance? Is that the unsafe distance? Wow! That changes everything! But the rest of the time you just use fireballs and step back xD

Lol I think you just don't like fireballs, not sure what you are looking for, if your struggling this much against fireballs then I suggest you go into training and figure out ways around it. And no for the record I don't just step back and throw fireballs because there is tons of ways to get around them and punish them lol this conversation is circular and pointless fireballs are not free like you are trying to make them

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So you don't use fireballs when the enemy is within fist striking distance? Is that the unsafe distance? Wow! That changes everything! But the rest of the time you just use fireballs and step back xD

Lol I think you just don't like fireballs, not sure what you are looking for, if your struggling this much against fireballs then I suggest you go into training and figure out ways around it. And no for the record I don't just step back and throw fireballs because there is tons of ways to get around them and punish them lol this conversation is circular and pointless fireballs are not free like you are trying to make them

Lmao! I've written before that fireballs aren't OP because they're easy to counter. I was saying that there is only one ironclad way to deal with fireballs in the game, but someone who uses about 1000 fireballs in a match just doesn't get it, because such people are afraid to take a character who isn't a mage.
You like Luke because he uses the fastest fireball - that's all.
It's ironic that the owner of the fastest fireball in the game says that fireballs are okay.

[PatrickBateman]

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Lol I think you just don't like fireballs, not sure what you are looking for, if your struggling this much against fireballs then I suggest you go into training and figure out ways around it. And no for the record I don't just step back and throw fireballs because there is tons of ways to get around them and punish them lol this conversation is circular and pointless fireballs are not free like you are trying to make them

Lmao! I've written before that fireballs aren't OP because they're easy to counter. I was saying that there is only one ironclad way to deal with fireballs in the game, but someone who uses about 1000 fireballs in a match just doesn't get it, because such people are afraid to take a character who isn't a mage.
You like Luke because he uses the fastest fireball - that's all.

I mean you can think that all you want, but his fireball is probably what I like least lol doesn't matter bro I think there is more then one way to deal with fireballs and you don't that's fine. You want to play a character without fireballs that's cool dude I play jamie as well so what does that mean? He doesn't have a fireball so what stupid reason do you think I like him for then

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Lmao! I've written before that fireballs aren't OP because they're easy to counter. I was saying that there is only one ironclad way to deal with fireballs in the game, but someone who uses about 1000 fireballs in a match just doesn't get it, because such people are afraid to take a character who isn't a mage.
You like Luke because he uses the fastest fireball - that's all.

I mean you can think that all you want, but his fireball is probably what I like least lol doesn't matter bro I think there is more then one way to deal with fireballs and you don't that's fine. You want to play a character without fireballs that's cool dude I play jamie as well so what does that mean? He doesn't have a fireball so what stupid reason do you think I like him for then

You wouldn't be playing as Luke if you didn't like fireball. You're just trying to lie now. You wouldn't have picked Luke if it wasn't for his fireball!
That's like saying you don't like Marisa's massive damage or you don't like Zangief's grabs.
Oh, sorry, you don't really know what these characters are, since they don't use fireballs.