Manon needs some nerfs

[ErřørEYH]

Get better you suck yada yada. Anyway, the frames and range of her normals, the easiness of her combos, the multiple different confirms she can get of any of her strings. This character can get 30-40% off command grabs and all she needs to do to set it up is a low punch or kick. That is ridiculous and she and marisa are the most obvious carry characters. Eyes on JP too.

[BlueFunGuy]

Thats fair. I assume you have enough experience with all types of fighting games. Have won many tournaments and achieved much in the FGC. Only then, I assume, you would feel qualified to make such a judgement. Im, sure you carefully thought this through, pooling all the data you've gathered against every known matchup. Weighting all the pros and cons over every single move in the game. It must of been such a task for you.

Thats for putting in the work my friend. The FGC needs more people like you.

[Ahriman]

the frames? I have this nagging feeling you actually never looked at her framedata, I wonder why...

[stun]

have you ever tried holding up?

[Solarius Nash]

If you get grabbed 5 times maybe you deserve the L

[HowlingintheDark]

Originally posted by Ghost:

Get better you suck yada yada. Anyway, the frames and range of her normals, the easiness of her combos, the multiple different confirms she can get of any of her strings. This character can get 30-40% off command grabs and all she needs to do to set it up is a low punch or kick. That is ridiculous and she and marisa are the most obvious carry characters. Eyes on JP too.

Not nerfs TWEAKS.For exaple make her medals go down when raund ends but also buff damage per stack slightly, and make medals apply to lv3 (medal lv1 dmg -10% , lv2 default dmg and at max add near +10%)

Originally posted by Solarius Nash:

If you get grabbed 5 times maybe you deserve the L :SF6_Delta_Cat:

you one of those who n.jump 24/7 ? )

[Grampire]

I think medals give her command grab too much damage. That's really it. She's a defense minded grappler players wet dream, but her gameplan falls apart when she has to go on the offense.

Her buttons are a mix of decent to gimmicky - they're better than Marissa but the ones with good range are for the most part hugely punishable. The issue is that they have faster startup so it's a match-up check.

She can punish mistakes with huge damage and her buttons give her better options than Marissa for dealing with rush down. But if she wants to go on offense she has to take huge risks that can get her blown up fast if the other player is paying attention.

I think she's a good character - her command grab might need a small damage adjustment but otherwise I'd say she's fine.

[ZeemenEfekti]

Ever tried getting her to 5 medals in a match? Gief gets max damage from his first grab, Manon has to always risk a mixup to gain medals/actually capitalize on those medals. Her combo/punish damage is subpar when compared to Ken, JP and DJ (to name a few) and unless she get those medals, her command grab damage is subpar too.

[vortex]

Originally posted by ZeemanEfekti:

Ever tried getting her to 5 medals in a match? Gief gets max damage from his first grab, Manon has to always risk a mixup to gain medals/actually capitalize on those medals. Her combo/punish damage is subpar when compared to Ken, JP and DJ (to name a few) and unless she get those medals, her command grab damage is subpar too.

It's not hard to build medals. All you do is hit with a light punch and combo into it from there.

[LumBiii]

Originally posted by vortex:

Originally posted by ZeemanEfekti:

Ever tried getting her to 5 medals in a match? Gief gets max damage from his first grab, Manon has to always risk a mixup to gain medals/actually capitalize on those medals. Her combo/punish damage is subpar when compared to Ken, JP and DJ (to name a few) and unless she get those medals, her command grab damage is subpar too.

It's not hard to build medals. All you do is hit with a light punch and combo into it from there.

Or just Drive Impact into a Grab

[Smartest Lesbian -50 IQ]

Originally posted by LumBiii:

Originally posted by vortex:

It's not hard to build medals. All you do is hit with a light punch and combo into it from there.

Or just Drive Impact into a Grab

Right, and Zangief, who can do the exact same thing, while directly dealing his entire damage instead of having to build medals half the match is fine i guess

[MechaDeka]

Originally posted by HowlingintheDark:

Originally posted by Solarius Nash:

If you get grabbed 5 times maybe you deserve the L :SF6_Delta_Cat:

you one of those who n.jump 24/7 ? )

Neutral jump is a good way to avoid being grabbed in pretty much any 2D fighter, yeah.

[Smartest Lesbian -50 IQ]

Originally posted by MechaDeka:

Originally posted by HowlingintheDark:

you one of those who n.jump 24/7 ? )

Neutral jump is a good way to avoid being grabbed in pretty much any 2D fighter, yeah.

loool loseer??? using universal mechanics to win the game?? what are you some sort of IDIOT? Real GAMERS sit in neutral, never jump, never block and take every hit face on no matter the cost. Coward.

[Everchosen]

I have become Manon, destroyer of scrubs.

[peacesFGC twitch.tv]

asking for nerfs when it hasnt even been a year yet is ridiculous.