HAITAINI in Top 6 using Modern Chun-Li. Will he beat Punk to progress?

[Samvega]

M controls are tournament allowed in the Capcom Pro Tour, and therefore EVO as it's part of the CPT. HAITANI is in EVO Top 6, against Punk, using Modern Chun-Li. Will he beat Punk to get to the semi-finals? Will he then beat Kakeru / AngryBird to reach the finals?

Top 6: https://old.reddit.com/r/StreetFighter/comments/15jg5pl/sf6_evo_top_6/

Haitani beating Tokido using Modern Chun-Li: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rwjvq5W1WRw



Some relevant YT comments and replies from the video (linked above):

"That title is so misleading. Haitini is like on of the alltime best japanese players." and "I like how the title of the video tries to downplay Haitani like hes not one of the all time greats"

"if Haitani wins, the modern control scheme will be on the marketing from now on"
> "I think over time more and more people will switch to modern when they realise how good it is"

"If you want to play Chun-Li at the highest level, most people will resort to modern. Her stance combos in classic control are a NIGHTMARE and a disadvantage against Ken, Ryu and Camille {I assume they mean Cammy}"

"I can't believe they allowed modern in the competition lmao. Ban certain hitboxes and allow macros and presets in competition? Way to go Capcom."
> "Modern is how the game is set by default when you first boot it up. It’s the way Capcom intends the game to be played moving forward, like it or loathe it. I think by evo 2024 we’ll see a lot more players on modern"


"Modern controls are literally Macros. One button no skill nonsense. There's enough cheating in this game already. Make Modern and Classic their own separate bracket, and a third bracket for people willing to play both."
> "someone call scrubquotes"
> "they are called modern controls for a reason, its the way the game is suppose to be played, classic is the old way, old man"
> "Riight.. so project L will take 0 skill because it also has 1 button specials"
> "Doesn't change the fact that Haitani is a long time player that would still take any of you crying with or without Modern controls."
> "no they aren't called beginner controls or easy controls, they are called modern controls, classic controls are called classic for a reason, it;'s the old way, modern is the current way, do you understand english"

"Good, I hope Haitani wins evo so the integrity of SF6 is destroyed forever. This is what happens when you put what is essentially macros into your game. Now I hope the game dies, SF6 is trash"

I also hope Modern controls win, I'd love to see the meltdown.

[Grandson]

It would be hilarious if haitani won evo with modern. I really hope this happens.

[Samvega]

Originally posted by grandson:

It would be hilarious if haitani won evo with modern. I really hope this happens.

It would be amazing, and I hope it happens too. "CONGRATS CAPCOM YOU KILLED THE GAME!!!"

Then the haters can go play Project L, with its one-button specials.
Here's a video about how one-button specials are the future: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KlGWmtkfsY

[YellowFlashKid]

To me, the biggest benefit of Modern Chun that Haitani used was the Tensho Kicks (DP). On classic, you need to do down down and then into light, medium, heavy or ex. On modern its just forward into SP. Other than that, he didn't do anything crazy.

If he fought on classic against Tokido, he wouldn't have gotten away with on-reaction DPs like he did. GGs to him, though. Not many, if anyone at all, use Modern Chun.

[Samvega]

Originally posted by YellowFlashKid:

To me, the biggest benefit of Modern Chun that Haitani used was the Tensho Kicks (DP). On classic, you need to do down down and then into light, medium, heavy or ex. On modern its just forward into SP. Other than that, he didn't do anything crazy.

If he fought on classic against Tokido, he wouldn't have gotten away with on-reaction DPs like he did. GGs to him, though. Not many, if anyone at all, use Modern Chun.

I believe commentators said he used one button supers to punish e.g. jump ins.

[YellowFlashKid]

Originally posted by Samvega:

Originally posted by YellowFlashKid:

To me, the biggest benefit of Modern Chun that Haitani used was the Tensho Kicks (DP). On classic, you need to do down down and then into light, medium, heavy or ex. On modern its just forward into SP. Other than that, he didn't do anything crazy.

If he fought on classic against Tokido, he wouldn't have gotten away with on-reaction DPs like he did. GGs to him, though. Not many, if anyone at all, use Modern Chun.

I believe commentators said he used one button supers to punish e.g. jump ins.

Yeah, noticed he did that too. The match I watched where he ended it in the corner with a super. That combo has super tight timing on classic. The first part into the lightning kicks (H) and (L) is easy, but getting the super in seems pretty hard, or maybe impossible on classic.

[GINTAMA]

I'm personally looking forward to one button fighting games. Modern is still too difficult really

[SilverJoystix]

I genuinely hate that this happened. Modern controls are scumbag tactics. There should have been two separate bracket tiers. One for modern control abusers and one for normal players using classic controls.

[Itsfreakyyy]

He would do the same even with classic anyways come on it's Hitani.

[YellowFlashKid]

Originally posted by SilverJoystix:

I genuinely hate that this happened. Modern controls are scumbag tactics. There should have been two separate bracket tiers. One for modern control abusers and one for normal players using classic controls.

Although I dislike Modern controls, they are the money makers of SF6. If not for them, the amount of active players today would be cut in half or even more. Some characters really benefit off of Modern (Luke from Streets), while others really don't.

Capcom know that in order to get the largest amount of $$$, they need to appeal to the casual audience. Pros won't have issues with classic since they've used that in years. If a new player came to SF6 and had to learn 720s, charge moves (buffering), timing of combos, then the game would be dead in no more than 2-3 months. Only the hardcore/dedicated player base will remain.

[stun]

punk is free so it's not really much of an upset

[Samvega]

Originally posted by Zahramar:

Will Macros finally be banned from Ranked and Tournaments after this?

No. In fact, Project L has one button specials. Get used to it.

[Samvega]

Originally posted by SilverJoystix:

I genuinely hate that this happened. Modern controls are scumbag tactics. There should have been two separate bracket tiers. One for modern control abusers and one for normal players using classic controls.

No. In fact, Project L has one button specials. Get used to it.

[SilverJoystix]

Originally posted by YellowFlashKid:

Originally posted by SilverJoystix:

I genuinely hate that this happened. Modern controls are scumbag tactics. There should have been two separate bracket tiers. One for modern control abusers and one for normal players using classic controls.

Although I dislike Modern controls, they are the money makers of SF6. If not for them, the amount of active players today would be cut in half or even more. Some characters really benefit off of Modern (Luke from Streets), while others really don't.

Capcom know that in order to get the largest amount of $$$, they need to appeal to the casual audience. Pros won't have issues with classic since they've used that in years. If a new player came to SF6 and had to learn 720s, charge moves (buffering), timing of combos, then the game would be dead in no more than 2-3 months. Only the hardcore/dedicated player base will remain.

For the first time in a long time, I will give someone credit for being right.

[SilverJoystix]

Originally posted by Samvega:

Originally posted by SilverJoystix:

I genuinely hate that this happened. Modern controls are scumbag tactics. There should have been two separate bracket tiers. One for modern control abusers and one for normal players using classic controls.

No. In fact, Project L has one button specials. Get used to it.

I will.

[Samvega]

Originally posted by SilverJoystix:

Originally posted by Samvega:

No. In fact, Project L has one button specials. Get used to it.

I will.

When everyone is forced to use 'scumbag tactics', are they 'scumbag' anymore?