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and a ps4 Madcatz TES+ fight stick.
also have an older Madcatz MLG ps3 stick
And most of them on d4.
Menard clowned on all the stick/hitbox users.
The stick/hitbox elitists can sit in a corner.
There are just a few people who are very used to the PS4 counterroller and see no point in retraining.
Punk - Playstation controller
SonicFox - Playstation controller
Mister Crimson - (currently #1 in ranks) - Playstation ontroller.
Luffy - won Evo 2014 using ps1 controller.
Recent Red Bull Kumite - 2nd place guy was using Playstation controller.
Snake Eyez - one of the best Zangief - controller.
Jabhim (who won against Tokido 5-3) - Playstation Controller
Kumite had pad players and a pad player dominated there.
Why you so delusional about pad players?
I see them in every tourney. A lot of them. Except for maybe Japan tourneys because these players live in arcade.
I mean, instead of trying to explain and compare, you say: look, someone at the tournament came with a PS4 controller.
Edit: and if someone shows up at a tournament and starts using a steering wheel, will you start claiming that the steering wheel is a very good kind of controller for fighting games?