忍者龜:施萊德的復仇

忍者龜:施萊德的復仇

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Martin 2022 年 6 月 15 日 下午 7:17
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No CRT filters in a pixel art game... WTF
Why devs lately don't include proper filters in pixel art games? I guess Reshade it is... Raw pixels look terrible on a TV
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Gamephreak5 2022 年 6 月 17 日 上午 9:39 
引用自 bickman14
Here's some comparison with the default sharp pixels from the game versus my ReShade setup:

https://i.imgur.com/qnOFWh7.png

https://i.imgur.com/aaZvy6q.png

The pixel art is really amazing but the filter makes it look way better IMO!

Ooh, that does look really nice! I used 480x270 because that multiplied evenly into 1920x1080, so that's what worked for me. It might also be the game's internal res, but I'm not sure.

I use CRTLottes2 also, just with 480x270 as the res, with Levels and CA (Chromatic Aberration):
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2821965231
King Hadu 2022 年 6 月 17 日 上午 10:10 
引用自 N3phalem
TV....lol

None of these retro games were ever designed for HD LCD displays which is why they look like pig feces on monitors. A cult of illiterate gamers convinced themselves that "Pixel Art" was a real thing when it actually was not and never owned a CRT TV

CRT TV had a unique ability to scale any image lossless to any size without losing any quality.

The only way to get these pixelated mess to look acceptable on a LCD monitor is through a shader known as CRT Royale which is the only shader that can emulate every aspect of a CRT TV

But to accomplish this you need a 4K 120hz Monitor or TV and a high end GPU as emulating everything on a CRT display is very complex.
最後修改者:King Hadu; 2022 年 6 月 17 日 上午 10:13
Zeikar 2022 年 6 月 17 日 上午 10:24 
引用自 Axelhander
Jesus Christ.
Flying Spaghetti Monster
Glenoz187 2022 年 6 月 17 日 下午 12:02 
I use CRT Frutbunn at 480 x 270 with 3 other effects to give the look I'm going for.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2822281036
bickman14 2022 年 6 月 17 日 下午 12:07 
引用自 Kenosha Kid
引用自 bickman14
Here's some comparison with the default sharp pixels from the game versus my ReShade setup:

https://i.imgur.com/qnOFWh7.png

https://i.imgur.com/aaZvy6q.png

The pixel art is really amazing but the filter makes it look way better IMO!

Ooh, that does look really nice! I used 480x270 because that multiplied evenly into 1920x1080, so that's what worked for me. It might also be the game's internal res, but I'm not sure.

I use CRTLottes2 also, just with 480x270 as the res, with Levels and CA (Chromatic Aberration):
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2821965231

I went with that weird res 'cause it was on a list of 16:9 resolutions.
i've tried a few and IMO that weird one looked the better LOL

https://pacoup.com/2011/06/12/list-of-true-169-resolutions/

Your shader is looking good too but I personally don't like how pronnounced the grid is on your setup.
Khronikos 2022 年 6 月 17 日 下午 1:19 
引用自 Martin
I'm playing the game and it looks terrible on a big screen. There's no way around it. pixels look HUGE. When I stream it to my phone with an OLED screen it looks much better. The same thing happens with other pixel art games without filtering options like Cosmic Star Heroine and Phantom Breaker Battle Grounds.

Pixel Art IQ 101...

Fixing it with Reshade is fine and all but this was quite a big profile release for a retro game. Should have been released with those options available from day one. Smaller games from the same genre like Fight N Rage have them. Its not like retro pixel art games are a new thing in 2022. Quite the oversight. Hopefully filters are added down the line.

It's their engine. Many games work absolutely perfectly fine with CRT shaders in 4K as a proved on my Aria comparison with a GBA game.

Their engine just does not work well with CRT shaders. Maybe they have 3D stuff in here IDK. The resolution is super large for some things with jaggies so large it is comical.

I still want a modern metroidvania Turtles game with great graphics.
Khronikos 2022 年 6 月 17 日 下午 1:21 
引用自 King Hadu
引用自 N3phalem
TV....lol

None of these retro games were ever designed for HD LCD displays which is why they look like pig feces on monitors. A cult of illiterate gamers convinced themselves that "Pixel Art" was a real thing when it actually was not and never owned a CRT TV

CRT TV had a unique ability to scale any image lossless to any size without losing any quality.

The only way to get these pixelated mess to look acceptable on a LCD monitor is through a shader known as CRT Royale which is the only shader that can emulate every aspect of a CRT TV

But to accomplish this you need a 4K 120hz Monitor or TV and a high end GPU as emulating everything on a CRT display is very complex.

Easy Mode and Lottes do a fine job when properly tuned. This art style is not going to change much though.

I feel like larger masks are the way to go here, as evidenced by the frutbunn post. That's starting to look really good but in my case without dilation.
最後修改者:Khronikos; 2022 年 6 月 17 日 下午 1:54
Zeikar 2022 年 6 月 17 日 下午 1:37 
Old displays blurred old games
There's no mind goblins at play.

If you believe old CRTs didn't blur games due to scanlines, interlacing, and low resolution then you are clearly suffering from a memory malfunction.
最後修改者:Zeikar; 2022 年 6 月 17 日 下午 1:48
Khronikos 2022 年 6 月 17 日 下午 2:08 
Yeah just tried out 480 x 270. Working really well with CRT Easy Mode with no mask at all. Looks really damn great. Thank you Glenoz.
buttonmush 2022 年 6 月 17 日 下午 2:19 
+1 for scanline option
Khronikos 2022 年 6 月 17 日 下午 2:22 
引用自 Kenosha Kid
引用自 bickman14
Here's some comparison with the default sharp pixels from the game versus my ReShade setup:

https://i.imgur.com/qnOFWh7.png

https://i.imgur.com/aaZvy6q.png

The pixel art is really amazing but the filter makes it look way better IMO!

Ooh, that does look really nice! I used 480x270 because that multiplied evenly into 1920x1080, so that's what worked for me. It might also be the game's internal res, but I'm not sure.

I use CRTLottes2 also, just with 480x270 as the res, with Levels and CA (Chromatic Aberration):
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2821965231

Just did this myself. Thanks for the res recommendation guys. It worked perfectly, and the game looks 100% better.

RAW: https://ibb.co/1QmMFS1

CRT EASY MODE No Mask: https://ibb.co/zJQk6dw
darwinwasright 2022 年 6 月 17 日 下午 2:34 
CRT filter would be awesome. :tmntapril:
Citizen Kabuto 2022 年 6 月 17 日 下午 3:31 
引用自 Khronikos

Just did this myself. Thanks for the res recommendation guys. It worked perfectly, and the game looks 100% better.

RAW: https://ibb.co/1QmMFS1

CRT EASY MODE No Mask: https://ibb.co/zJQk6dw

I can't seem to replicate the effects you got here. What settings are you using in easy mode?
CryonicSuspension 2022 年 6 月 17 日 下午 4:25 
CRT was ugly, that's why we use flat screen. I rest my case. Pineapple on pizza would be a more controversial thread.
2cide 2022 年 6 月 17 日 下午 4:53 
dang kids think a CRT filter is remotely similar to CRT pixel bleed
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