April O'Neil but not Casey Jones?

[Grog]

I appreciate the classic tv look of April, but I am no fool. She had about as much combat capacity throughout every element of the show and comics as a stunned lemming. In fact, the show jokes about how many times that woman was kidnapped by Shredder and Krang.

She was artificially given sudden martial arts skills in the CGI movie, which never made any sense to me (though I figure being kidnapped a few hundred times would get tiring).

However, Casey is far more of an iconic fighter to the show...Do you think we will get him at this rate?

[Drowan]

Originally posted by Grog:

However, Casey is far more of an iconic fighter to the show...Do you think we will get him at this rate?

Not in the old show (the one this game is based on) at least. He's not a main character, he appears just a few times.

I don't know what is the problem and why April can't just learn martial arts. I don't remember Splinter fighting that much neither and there he is in the trailer.

It would be good if they add more characters of course, but I highly doubt Casey Jones will be a playable character on the base game (wish I'm mistaken though).

[Grog]

To me, it's as off putting as giving shadow the hedgehog a gun, giving master splinter a bazooka, and having shredder fight with a pair of chopsticks.

It's not native to the intent of the character as-written. I hate to wade into this, but it was given to her (yes, given, you don't become a martial arts master in a year, or even five years) probably as a diversity and inclusion stunt while totally and completely forgetting April's actual purpose to the comic and the show.

Casey Jones is -far- more iconic then you depict him. He belongs here.

[H-Foundry PIXIV]

I bet April will be one of the most picked chars by default since the official original cast is pretty much a sausage fest

Irma is just too out-there even as a joke-char, Venus could be an unlock, but isn't cute like Ap, like Donny in drag.

[StoneGolem]

I expect Casey Jones to appear in this game as a playable character sooner or later.

[John Titor]

Originally posted by Grog:

... probably as a diversity and inclusion stunt while totally and completely forgetting April's actual purpose...

Says it right in the game description

Play with iconic TMNT characters and vehicles in diverse gameplay options

[Kai]

Welcome to 2022, well not really its been ongoing for a while. I wouldnt even be surprised if Casey is not even in the game but Chun Li April is for some reason.

[32bitCrush]

Originally posted by Grog:

It's not native to the intent of the character as-written.

If you want to talk about the "intent of the character as written," the original material from Eastman and Laird depicts April fighting crime as a vigilante.

Besides, Splinter had plenty of time to teach her since 1991.

[Portwills]

Totally agree with you Grog. People just don't get it nowadays.

Originally posted by Terminator X:

I don't know what is the problem and why April can't just learn martial arts.

This is the same as saying 'I don't see why giving superpowers to Mary Jane is a problem. Spider-Man can climb onto walls and use spider webs.'

80s TMNT is a cultural heritage, this game is based on it. The least the game can do is respect it. I'd understand if it were a different timeline.

Originally posted by Terminator X:

I don't remember Splinter fighting that much neither and there he is in the trailer.

Splinter destroys a wooden box in the intro theme of the show using badass moves. He is the ninja turtles' martial arts master. He deserves a place.

https://youtu.be/VA_-6v1EzYE

[Mumrah]

Gunna throw in my 2 cents here.
April is way more iconic as a character overall than Casey. She has basically been there since the beginning. She was the first to discover the turtles. She was always there telling you to "GO". Long before the cartoons, she was able to fight when she became the female version of "Nobody". A vigilante persona. Many iterations say that she has had training with Splinter.
The 1980's cartoon changed a LOT of stuff. While the movie meshed the two. While in those versions, she had no fighting skills. She has plenty of spirit.

Casey is important enough to exist for sure and he is not a minor character, but I would rank him below April. Yes, he can fight. He has had no training in martial arts. He is a vigilante with a street fighting style.
Splinter is the master, stays hidden while the youngin's go out and fight. Typically that is how it went in the culture. We would have to also establish if he is too old to fight, or young enough to whoop everyone's butt.

It does not surprise me that she has a more active role in the games/media. Hell, she should be trained to be a ninja master to further her reporting career. Her best friends are all fighting experts. I'm am surprised she hasn't been more combat inclined sooner.

You also have to consider how adding more characters would affect gameplay. Each turtle has their own strengths based on certain parameters like, health, speed, damage, range, and so on.

[Portwills]

Hey Mumrah I think you're right, I don't mind April being a fighter. But I think it could have been done differently. April could have been part of the story instead (well, maybe she is), or, as a fighter, her moves could have been whimsical to reflect her character from the 80s. Honestly,,, I think it's being pushed for the sake of being gender inclusive, nevermind her character. This might have been easier to swallow if they had shown other characters too. I'm gonna buy this game 100%, but it sucks that we feel 80s TMNT on its own is just not good enough anymore.

[Kai]

Bulma should also be able to kick Frieza's a* now because shes been around the fighters for 40 years, they should've taught her stuff. Wonder why she isnt?

[Kai]

Originally posted by Karl:

Originally posted by Grog:

It's not native to the intent of the character as-written.

If you want to talk about the "intent of the character as written," the original material from Eastman and Laird depicts April fighting crime as a vigilante.

Besides, Splinter had plenty of time to teach her since 1991.

lol, Thats false, she has never been a vigilante, she was never trained or interested, she never fought, even in The Last Ronin she isnt. The most she did was defend and run like anyone would do ever.

Even in The Last Ronin, her daughter is an actual resistance fighter who trained all her life in the dystopian future and Mikey swats her away like a fly.

Making April a kung fu fighter is nothing but bs.

[Retrogon]

It's pretty disappointing and weird that they're adding April but not Casey Jones. Casey is a badass who can fight, April is a journalist. I would have no problem with April being a playable character if Casey was also a playable character but he's not. I hope they're gonna add him into the game post-launch.

[H-Foundry PIXIV]

I'd rather her be playable than not. Think of it as a "celebrations" game complete with joke chars (her moves are joke rips of streetfighter alpha series - edit just to confirm, playable Irma would be too much even as a joke char I think). The devs basically took notice of her being playable elsewhere and the sky didn't fall.

https://talkingcomicssite.files.wordpress.com/2019/06/1440638b-653a-42d0-82be-dac0428fe1ea.png

[Doomerang]

Eh, they need something for dlc later.