Patch when?

Автор сообщения: kunt

Автор сообщения: Lead Poisoning

Could you consider removing some of the weapon exclusivity? I'd really like to give my Guardsman a flamer, but the zealot class has dibs.

stfu

Yo, skiprat. Next time you have an issue with something, just have the balls to say something with your real profile instead of using this absolute fannypiece profile i am replying to now to post ♥♥♥♥ on my friend's profiles saying the N word and "courtesy of Weaponmaster 55".

haha, gave us a laugh at how triggered you must be in your pathetic damp ridden basement, but seriously bro, grow a pair?

this next update is looking good, it adresses all the most pressing concerns people has. I think it's gonna improve the game ALOT. the fact that you didn't get anything or only occasionnaly something at the end of a mission was a total aberration. This course correction was absolutly necessary and now at least it's gonna be worth getting the grims and tomes, not only for contracts but for the item at the end. You don't need to reinvent the wheel, some stuff that people want and like already exist in vermintide 2 and are very well done, take inspiration there. most people would rather have a 40k version of the vermintide crafting system then some punishing/grindy new version of a crafting system.

Something that i im disapoint about tough is that I'd like to have the opportunity to salvage my weapons for some plassteel and diamantine. especially since crafting material are not shared between characters, it would make sense, at least to me that we could get something out of the weapons we find and don't need. The ingame "money" isn't valuable since it only serve for an occasionnal transaction in the armoury and the generic boring cosmetics. plasteel and Diamantine are way more valuable and important in the game progression then the "money".
You could make it that you can salvage only weapons that you consacrate and we get back 50% of the material it took to upgrade it. this way, trying to get an item isn't that punishing anymore, imo. so maybe we can't salvage everything but weapons that we invested in that are not needed anymore at least they have a last purpose.

anyway, looking foward to this patch

Автор сообщения: The Rizzler

Автор сообщения: CaptCanuck18

Some of you guys just ♥♥♥♥♥ for the sake of it, it seems. Such thankless ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Are people really this psy-opd into licking the boots of corporations?

People paid money. In exchange for that money, people expect a product that is as advertised. That's it. There is nothing to be ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ thankful about, the game isn't free, they didn't do anything for free.

What are you people on about?

yes, yes they are. Thats why everything the normie touches turns to ♥♥♥♥. Cause normies get excited for product than consume product, get a quick dopamine hit and get excited for next product no matter the quality of product.
As a result ofc companys will produce low quality ♥♥♥♥ cause the average normie has no line and will buy everything repeatedly from a company that ripps them of over and over again.
You can see the same issues in any other business as well, everywhere quality goes to ♥♥♥♥ cause the normie doesnt care about it.
Worst is the new thinking of the normie which goes as such "product better the higher the price is" so selling ♥♥♥♥ gets more easy if you put a higher price tag on it which is madness but that is the normie for you.

Автор сообщения: guenter3

Автор сообщения: The Rizzler

Are people really this psy-opd into licking the boots of corporations?

People paid money. In exchange for that money, people expect a product that is as advertised. That's it. There is nothing to be ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ thankful about, the game isn't free, they didn't do anything for free.

What are you people on about?

yes, yes they are. Thats why everything the normie touches turns to ♥♥♥♥. Cause normies get excited for product than consume product, get a quick dopamine hit and get excited for next product no matter the quality of product.
As a result ofc companys will produce low quality ♥♥♥♥ cause the average normie has no line and will buy everything repeatedly from a company that ripps them of over and over again.
You can see the same issues in any other business as well, everywhere quality goes to ♥♥♥♥ cause the normie doesnt care about it.
Worst is the new thinking of the normie which goes as such "product better the higher the price is" so selling ♥♥♥♥ gets more easy if you put a higher price tag on it which is madness but that is the normie for you.

The absolute cringe of referring to people as "normies", combined with the irony of you yourself sound about as far from being "normal" as humanly possible on a forum.

Автор сообщения: Weaponmaster 55

Автор сообщения: guenter3

yes, yes they are. Thats why everything the normie touches turns to ♥♥♥♥. Cause normies get excited for product than consume product, get a quick dopamine hit and get excited for next product no matter the quality of product.
As a result ofc companys will produce low quality ♥♥♥♥ cause the average normie has no line and will buy everything repeatedly from a company that ripps them of over and over again.
You can see the same issues in any other business as well, everywhere quality goes to ♥♥♥♥ cause the normie doesnt care about it.
Worst is the new thinking of the normie which goes as such "product better the higher the price is" so selling ♥♥♥♥ gets more easy if you put a higher price tag on it which is madness but that is the normie for you.

The absolute cringe of referring to people as "normies", combined with the irony of you yourself sound about as far from being "normal" as humanly possible on a forum.

bruh go into marketing and you learn the nature of "the normie" i.e. the average person you try to sell product to
Just cause you cant read statistics doesnt mean stats are not true.
Gid Gud

Автор сообщения: nquisitor Havoc

There are some game play issues you need to fix!
1 All the weapons need optics and attachments its in the lore. Even Bolters are seen with scopes. There needs to be more ammo for most guns
2 The Trappers need to stop spawning right behind you giving you zero time to react, and if I cant shoot through an Ogryn why can a trapper shoot through 10 of his guys to get me!
3 Dogs, there should be the ability to get one off of you, maybe make a 2 second timer to roll them off of you. This being helpless is stupid especially for an Ogryn
4 Someone mentioned the VT2 crafting system, I agree that system worked! The crafting system should give a disassemble, and a way to both combine blessings and perks for the highest tier and bank blessings and perks for future weapons!
5 Whats the sense of giving everyone an Emperors blessing if all you can do is sell the things you don't want.
6 I have 700k dockets there's nothing left to buy. I'm sure that is the same for most high time players
7 You have duel wielding in both lore and VT2, why don't we have that here?
8 Wheres the rest of the weapons? Longlas, plasma and bolt pistols, Hellguns, rocket launchers, grenade launchers, power and chainfists, etc.

While I agree with very few things you said, I like how most of your points are skill issues you can beat through practice and getting upset over small things that weren't included from the get-go just because it was in the lore rather than praising over the fact they do add new weapons.

Автор сообщения: guenter3

Автор сообщения: Weaponmaster 55

The absolute cringe of referring to people as "normies", combined with the irony of you yourself sound about as far from being "normal" as humanly possible on a forum.

bruh go into marketing and you learn the nature of "the normie" i.e. the average person you try to sell product to
Just cause you cant read statistics doesnt mean stats are not true.
Gid Gud

No need to go as far as marketing, go to normal def of "normie" and get the "average person who acts average". So, since you claim that most of the players left this game because i´ts bad (with statistics), that means that YOU are the "normies", while we, the loyal, not-brainless or turncoats either, are the non-normies.
Thanks, i´m proud of not being a casul normie like you.

Автор сообщения: SelunEeve

Автор сообщения: guenter3

bruh go into marketing and you learn the nature of "the normie" i.e. the average person you try to sell product to
Just cause you cant read statistics doesnt mean stats are not true.
Gid Gud

No need to go as far as marketing, go to normal def of "normie" and get the "average person who acts average". So, since you claim that most of the players left this game because i´ts bad (with statistics), that means that YOU are the "normies", while we, the loyal, not-brainless or turncoats either, are the non-normies.
Thanks, i´m proud of not being a casul normie like you.

That's some top-notch mental gymnastics right there.

Автор сообщения: SelunEeve

Автор сообщения: guenter3

bruh go into marketing and you learn the nature of "the normie" i.e. the average person you try to sell product to
Just cause you cant read statistics doesnt mean stats are not true.
Gid Gud

No need to go as far as marketing, go to normal def of "normie" and get the "average person who acts average". So, since you claim that most of the players left this game because i´ts bad (with statistics), that means that YOU are the "normies", while we, the loyal, not-brainless or turncoats either, are the non-normies.
Thanks, i´m proud of not being a casul normie like you.

the normies are representative of the average consumer in general not representative of a product with a niche consumer market (the percentage of normies fluctuates depending on product) you see this effect to a greater percentage in more popular games which are more highly consumed by normies i.e. CoD, FIFA and so on.

But keep coping.

Автор сообщения: Munchies NerdsBG

Are you telling me that the whole system for rewards have been unfinished and just now you begin to implement it?

They are saying big daddy Tencent forced them to launch it as it was to rake in the cash, because big daddy Tencent only cares about the money, not the players or developers.

Автор сообщения: NoSleep

Автор сообщения: Munchies NerdsBG

Are you telling me that the whole system for rewards have been unfinished and just now you begin to implement it?

They are saying big daddy Tencent forced them to launch it as it was to rake in the cash, because big daddy Tencent only cares about the money, not the players or developers.

thats probably the main issue with the game. Its often that some outside investor pushes for an unfinished product to be released to make a quick return on investment.
Tho the fault lies with Fatshark as well in this regard, they got to greedy and sold out.

Автор сообщения: Rune1981

It's a 2 month old almost 3 month old game. And they are implementing a patch to put into place what 90% of the people wanted and asked for. And all faster then what they have ever implemented before (coming from v2 and v1) and YET STILL.. people whine,complain, and talk ♥♥♥♥.

You'd think that you guys spent 100.00$ on this game, had stocks invested in the company and sat at the board meetings every thursday. And some of us are starting to look worse then an average Reddit Mod with the way we talk and abuse our power of forum chat.

Get a freaking grip people. give them an opportunity to fix the issue. BEFORE you drive your pitchforks in, I almost always give a game like this 6-7 mos to get their ♥♥♥♥ together, considering the scale and the fact that it's multiplayer: IT'S GOING TO HAVE PROBLEMS. Name one that didn't, you can't.

The state of gamers today is very saddening. We're not spoilt children, we paid 39.99 for a game that at its core is a great game, just needed the other aspects put in and well together.. and now it is, that is something to be happy about. Not ignore and continue the monotonous drivvel and crap slinging some of us continue to do now even after they acknowledge and are working to fix.

my 2c

With all all-due respect, this post above encapsulates the reason why companies can get away with what they can get away with now a day. I understand that there are some unhinged posts out there, but most that are negative in nature not out of malice or cruelty. It’s out of principal. You say that gamers have become spoiled children, well then I ask you this; what would happen if you went to a car dealership, read a tag on the windshield that showed the cars price, base features and add on features, luxury installs and so on and so forth. You paid for the car full price, drove it off the lot, only to find out that the AC does not work, half the windows don't roll down, the radio is missing, and you have no cup holders. One could say that the car still drives, and gets you from point A to point B, but at the end of the day you did not get what you paid for. That's what happened. We were promised EARLY ACCESS to a game upon pre-purchase, we got a "BETA", we were promised plenty of features that were left out. If FS was running a car dealership they would be sued out of business, but because gamers buy incomplete products from game companies and don’t do anything about it, ♥♥♥♥ like this keeps happening in the industry. Because companies know, we can promise a bunch of ♥♥♥♥, the people will buy it and we can "fix" all the rest of the ♥♥♥♥ at a later date, and they get away with it.

Don't be surprised when years down the line you buy a game full price and after you install it and watch the intro video, you get greeted with a message that says "We take enormous pride in our ability at Fatshark to deliver a game that millions can enjoy. This was what we set out to do with Warhammer 40,000: Darktide – to create a highly engaging and stable game with a level of depth that keeps you playing for weeks, not hours. Please stay tuned as we release our first wave of playable content in the coming weeks." Now a day, because companies are allowed to prosper when flat out lying to their consumers, the future of this industry will only get worse as time goes on. Let’s see you'll act like a spoiled child years from now when it becomes the norm.

Great even more RNG on top of RNG.
Even more disrespectful mechanics.
Even less respect for players time and more grind.

These changes are better than what we have right now.
By about 2%
It is still bad, really bad.

If this is how they want to handel the game in the future, with more RNG and more Grind.
Then I am afraid they will further kill their playerbase.

Game ships with no crafting system, but a fully functional real money cosmetics store. I think we can all see where your priorities are