Why Solo mode?

[Brother Pigmar]

Just curious as to why. Why would somebody buy a life service coop online game just to then start complaining that they can't play a game by themself that was never designed to be played alone? You don't download counterstrike,league, or any other online game and then complain like "Yikes why do i have to deal with these other people in my game?!"

[bobshlob2]

because what other game has this gameplay?

[Darth Revan]

well, let me tell you i never played a single time with real players in vermintide 1 and 2, i only ever played with AI bots in my team and i had lots of fun doing so, especially in vermintide 2 where the AI bots are not useless

[coldgarden]

Whoa, you are getting it started now, lol. All joking aside, it was promised at the game's release.

[Brother Pigmar]

Originally posted by fatdickgirl:

because what other game has this gameplay?

Hrm probably the upcoming spacemarine 2 game has the closest thing?

Idk its just a weird concept to me but maybe thats because if not for coop i would die of Boredome in these games be it vermintide or darktide. The teamwork and cheering each other on in a cluch situation is what makes these games for me.

Edit: Sidenote i also don't understand this for people who do that sort of things in MMOs. Some genres are inherently designed for Multiplayer so the idea that solo players feel entitled to changing the game to fit their needs is odd to me. I would just not buy a game if i know it doesnt fit my taste.

Also if it was promised at release then i understand^^

[=EBS= WarGanisM]

Because some people think just because something exists, they should be able to warp and shape it to what they demand. Anything Multiplayer Only gets yelled at to make Solo, Anything Solo gets demanded to be Multiplayer. Anything PVP gets yelled at to be PVE only, list goes on. Humans.

Anything that try to appeal to everyone is always terrible, and most people acknowledge this, yet everyone wants to be catered to specifically.

There could be an FPS game uniquely designed for specifically Old age pensioners that like Starwars, and every Starwars fan would complain how they have been left out, and it should of been a hypercompetitive RTS MMO Aquaman game!

[coolman552]

Because solo mode is an universal standard in horde shooters? Because it was promised to be implemented shortly after launch?

[BluB3rry]

Originally posted by coolman552:

Because solo mode is an universal standard in horde shooters? Because it was promised to be implemented shortly after launch?

how that vermintide 2 versus that was announced 5 years ago?

[Brother Pigmar]

Originally posted by coolman552:

Because solo mode is an universal standard in horde shooters?

So is that they are initially designed with and focused on multiplayer. I would get these complaints if finding a mage takes ages do to low player count but matchmaking is litteraly almost instant any time of the day.

[☠✠ SkullHunter727 ✠☠]

Solo mode was promised to us before the game launched out of Beta. Its been a whole year now and its still not here. Obviously we are gonna kick up a stink over a core mechanic that has been present in the tide series before and that was promised to us in this game.

[coolman552]

Originally posted by BluB3rry:

Originally posted by coolman552:

Because solo mode is an universal standard in horde shooters? Because it was promised to be implemented shortly after launch?

how that vermintide 2 versus that was announced 5 years ago?

what does this mean? i didnt even play VT2 alot

Originally posted by Holy Pigmar:

Originally posted by coolman552:

Because solo mode is an universal standard in horde shooters?

So is that they are initially designed with and focused on multiplayer. I would get these complaints if finding a mage takes ages do to low player count but matchmaking is litteraly almost instant any time of the day.

You do not understand, a solo mode in coop shooters is an UNIVERSAL STANDARD and should NOT be mutually exclusive with the game being focused on multiplayer

[Commander Hitman2b]

Originally posted by Holy Pigmar:

Just curious as to why. Why would somebody buy a life service coop online game just to then start complaining that they can't play a game by themself that was never designed to be played alone? You don't download counterstrike,league, or any other online game and then complain like "Yikes why do i have to deal with these other people in my game?!"

so people can work on some achievement solo, or if some want to play when they have no connection

[Meredy]

Well they said they would add a solo play. I wouldn't have bought it otherwise.
I blame myself for believing anything a publisher says pre-launch though.

[Scipo0419]

Originally posted by Holy Pigmar:

Just curious as to why. Why would somebody buy a life service coop online game just to then start complaining that they can't play a game by themself that was never designed to be played alone? You don't download counterstrike,league, or any other online game and then complain like "Yikes why do i have to deal with these other people in my game?!"

Because Left 4 Dead, Left 4 Dead 2, Vermintide, Vermintide 2, and World War Z are all 4 player online co-op games with solo private lobbies. It’s almost like people are used to being able to only play with bots or their friends. I can’t imagine why that’s the case, I mean only the 4 player online co-op games Left 4 Dead, Left 4 Dead 2, Vermintide, Vermintide 2, and World War Z let you play solo with bots before Fatshark decided that this staple feature was unnecessary. Man, if only we had a precedence of the 4 player online co-op games Left 4 Dead, Left 4 Dead 2, Vermintide, Vermintide 2, and World War Z letting you play solo w/ bots. Then we might have some ground to stand on for why we want this feature. Too bad, huh?

Edit: To establish my point, how would you feel if you were told "Yes! You CAN play with online matchmaking" but the feature was never released it was solo w/ bots or private lobbies with friends only. When you said "This game is so boring with bots, I want to be able to play with randoms!" Everyone told you "I don't understand why anyone would want to play with randoms, it's WAY more fun to play with bots/friends!" but you know that you don't have fun playing with bots. It's the same thing for us, I've tried quick play in every iteration of horde shooters and I hated every second of it, I never finished a map and thought "that was so much more fun than playing with bots!" I only thought "I don't know what I was expecting, but that was horrible." Why force me to play with randoms when every other iteration of horde shooter has allowed me to play with bots with no issues.

[SaLaĐiN]

Counter Strike is a MP game yet people play the map solo without bots to learn the mechanics, maps and practice. In Counter Strike, anyone semi serious about the game, has more hours on record practing solo than playing MP. Shocking.

I understand that for casuals, it is hard idea to grasp.

[quix0te]

1)People suck, and decently coded bots are better than a lot of PUGs.
2)Vermintide 2 had the option of solo play.
3)Not everyone realizes this is going to be a co-op only game when they buy it.
4)Its a terrible business decision to make it a co-op only game with no bot support because if the playerbase drops below a certain threshold, now its unplayable because you can't find matches.