As a Veteran why would I use anything but Plasma gun + Powersword?

[Burba]

These weapons seem so good that I am gimping my team if I do not take them. Please tell me I am wrong and I have just missed another really good set of weapons.

[Jakal, Lady kisser]

plasma's got crap accuracy, takes a whole second to fire when you pull the trigger and overheat can cut you off from firing it in a serious pinch. powersword is a death sentence when you're surrounded as not charging it results in possibly the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ melee in the game.

rocking the "it's my team's fault i'm not doing perfectly" combo also tends to make everyone suspect you blow nuts.

[Urban Shaman]

The plasma is only good if you have a teammate up front drawing the attention of all the melee specialists, making them bunch up into a nice ball. With ranged it's still good, but if there's a number of ranged enemies all dispersed you'll find that the TTK is lower with other weapons because of the plasma guns need to charge up shots and low refire rate.

Also the charge up, while minimal, does make it a bit awkward to target moving enemies.

Don't get me wrong - it's a fantastic weapon and I love it; but depending on situation I've seen other veterans outperform me.

As for the power sword I wouldn't know as I like the "wrrrmmmm" of the chainsaw.

[FilthyPeasant]

Because Bolter :D

[Grail]

Because they aren't the be all and end all.
The plasma gun is slow firing, it can't be used reliably to take out lots of enemy shooters. The Powersword is good, but it can come unstuck also if you don't get a chance to charge it.

I rarely run the Plasma Gun or Powersword and I play on Auric Damnation mostly and don't gimp my team. I tend to run Agripinna Braced Auto + Rashad Combat Axe or Zarona Reolver + Tac Axe IV or Boltgun + Mk IV Chainsword as my 3 most common loadouts.

[Orums]

What's it like boiling your games down to 2-3 button presses.

Can't be that fun. Can't enjoy many games.

See what I'm getting at? The reason is called variety, challenge, adaptability. The things that grow your skillset into an actual asset for your team instead of a monkeigh with one good boomstikk

Grow as a player, experience the game in new ways, learn new things, do memes; this should be the mandate of anyone who would deign call themselves a gamer.

But it won't, because people like easy. people like convenience. People are lazy troglodytes

[Kenpachi Ramasama]

because when they reworked classes and the big update hit they made sure there are abilitys and weapons people can use while playing with the controller a.k.a xbox players.
in term of efficiency there is no better weapon period.

Autoguns are kinda the same deal but dont deal with armored ogrins.

if u wanna chalange yourself try any lasguns, hellbore, headhunter rifles and go full sharpshooter tree.

revolver is also op as hell.

if it comes to melee its up to you, yes power sword can ditch out some good damage and slice everything but at cost of none existing dodge distance

[Dragon]

If you're building purely for shooting ranged, power sword is a great 'backup' weapon as its one of the better 'defensive' melee weapons in the game. However, for actual melee damage, knife going for weakspots can do similar dps while being far more aggressive in movespeed, combos and dodge number. Catachan sword is a great all rounder, so is the Rashad. Shoutout to the standard sapper shovel with uncanny for probably the most all around weapon veteran has, as well. Either one of the regular chainswords works quite well for horde clear and can deal decent elite damage in a pinch. Tactical axes are very hard to master weapons because of their swing patterns but still manage great dps and have high innate armor pen for light weapons.

Ranged, it really depends on what role you want. Revolver does basically exactly what plasma does but with slightly less downtime on a reload build, but with less ammo. Much higher headshot potential also. Columnus MkV and AG1 are both amazing all round ranged weapons. Same with Infantry MkIV and the AG Braced. Helbore 1 and 2 both melt anything you shoot if you're looking for a more 'ranged only' style, as their stab is basically an efficient melee weapon in its own right.

Really, most of veterans kit is so versatile you can build for basically anything you have access to and do well. This is coming from a level 500/800 hour vet main. Try more things, theyre better or worse at different things. Thats the beauty of it. If you want more shooter control, try an autogun. If you want something different for elite/special killing, try knife revolver.

[KTVindicare]

Plasma Gun is amazing vs elites. Less so vs lots of smaller shooting enemies, especially when they are spread out. It's an awesome gun but it's not the best at everything. If you're the only Veteran on the squad and your party is pinned down by swarms of ranged units you'll wish you had a different gun.

Power Sword is just overpowered. If you have a well rolled Power Sword there's not really much reason to use anything else except that the Power Sword is a boring weapon to use.

[Bees]

There are a lot of good weapons. Also for fun. Like the game isnt hard enough where you can't use whatever weapons you want. Only time that isnt true is when nobody on the team has special killing snipe.

[Grr. [SG CMD] Majah Lazah]

Burba lähetti viestin:

These weapons seem so good that I am gimping my team if I do not take them. Please tell me I am wrong and I have just missed another really good set of weapons.

Columnus and Agra actually have better ttk on anything but Bulwarks Crushes and Monstrosities in mixed groups. The gun is slow.

[WhiteLezard]

I personally stick to the plasma gun because it's a big / armored enemy removal tool; it really makes a difference for the rest of the team.

[SNAAAKE]

Because the game is about exploring the variety of weapons... if you only stick to the same meta build you got from a youtuber then you're doing yourself a disservice. Not to mention the community who is undoubtedly annoyed you need a crutch to finish a round.

[Horrid]

Ehh tried the plasma gun, but I prefer the auto gun instead. Same with the power sword, I got one with energizer rank 4, but ended up going back to my chain axe.

The auto gun kills everything, you just have to aim at crushers head or hit them in the back. The chain axe eats though everything if enemies get close.

Auric damnation is what I test these weapons on.

[Arani]

Burba lähetti viestin:

These weapons seem so good that I am gimping my team if I do not take them. Please tell me I am wrong and I have just missed another really good set of weapons.

Plasma is fantastic and overtuned. But that firing delay & wonky aim, ammo consumption, and those venting delays once overheated do matter. It also tends to need some rather specific talents for buffing its dmg past breakpoints, has a really bad crit dmg bonus and can't use Deadshot to name a few things. It's a lot like Trauma with psykers in that it really is overall the best, but there are tons of other amazing builds that just aren't possible with it. I have way more fun with a crit / precision build using an Agripinaa shotty with Scattershot & Man-Stopper, or a Columnus IA assault build for example.

As for Power Sword, that's not even in the same bracket as plasma. Power Swords are strong sure, but since they require that special activation overhead, they're just far too slow for more agile builds. They also absolutely suck for defense. I much prefer shovels myself.

[A Dying Rose]

I use the Boltgun! Though the ammunition is super low, I always felt really powerful with it and it deals serious damage with the right upgrades.