Hot take: This game is a lot better than HD

[pyremind]

Yeah I said it. I found the matchmaking to be pretty bad, and the actual missions are super bland and boring compared to what you get with DT. The maps remind me of NMS if anything, and the combat is very shallow comparatively.

I refunded it. I have no idea why everyone's losing their minds over Helldivers. As a 20+ year gamer I found it really boring. I'll be staying with Darktide.

[McDinglefart]

Aaron님이 먼저 게시:

I feel the same. I find DT lacking in many things as well but Helldivers looks just worse. Both Gameplay wise and variety in Enemies, Weapons and Co. i find Helldivers looks like ♥♥♥♥ and its not Warhammer so big minus

Helkdivers2 has more enemy variety and I bet they double it adding 2 other factions to fight against which all feel very different gameplay wise.

[Clyan]

completely different games, why even make a comparison? yes, both are live services games, but thats where the similiarities end.

the only reason why HD2 is talked about is because it exploded. besides, the vast majority of people have no clue what a good game actually is, they just love quick fun and accessibility, and HD2 does provide that. its hot pleb garbage. I enjoy it too, but its not a good game by any means. it has some sandbox elements, and like many other games within that field is devoid of any meaningful and artistic substance. its cheap and shallow, but fun, like a bad action blockmuster / marvel movie, trashy fastfood or disney land. once youre saturated with all it has to offer youll get bored with it. HD2's success will be followed by a steady decline in player count. you know it, i know it, everyone knows it.

[Fed Groomer (Get that Glowussy)]

Clyan님이 먼저 게시:

completely different games, why even make a comparison? yes, both are live services games, but thats where the similiarities end.

the only reason why HD2 is talked about is because it exploded. besides, the vast majority of people have no clue what a good game actually is, they just love quick fun and accessibility, and HD2 does provide that. I enjoy it too, but its not a good game by any means. it has some sandbox elements, and like many other games within that field is devoid of any meaningful and artistic substance. its cheap and shallow, but fun, like a bad action blockmuster / marvel movie, ♥♥♥♥♥♥ fastfood or disney land. once your saturated with all it has to offer youll get bored with it. HD2's success will be followed by a steady decline in player count. you know it, i know it, everyone knows it.

It's also published by playstation so its not some indie game.

[McDinglefart]

Clyan님이 먼저 게시:

completely different games, why even make a comparison? yes, both are live services games, but thats where the similiarities end.

the only reason why HD2 is talked about is because it exploded. besides, the vast majority of people have no clue what a good game actually is, they just love quick fun and accessibility, and HD2 does provide that. its hot pleb garbage. I enjoy it too, but its not a good game by any means. it has some sandbox elements, and like many other games within that field is devoid of any meaningful and artistic substance. its cheap and shallow, but fun, like a bad action blockmuster / marvel movie, trashy fastfood or disney land. once youre saturated with all it has to offer youll get bored with it. HD2's success will be followed by a steady decline in player count. you know it, i know it, everyone knows it.

Darktide is not a quick and accessible? What?

Billiam님이 먼저 게시:

Clyan님이 먼저 게시:

completely different games, why even make a comparison? yes, both are live services games, but thats where the similiarities end.

the only reason why HD2 is talked about is because it exploded. besides, the vast majority of people have no clue what a good game actually is, they just love quick fun and accessibility, and HD2 does provide that. I enjoy it too, but its not a good game by any means. it has some sandbox elements, and like many other games within that field is devoid of any meaningful and artistic substance. its cheap and shallow, but fun, like a bad action blockmuster / marvel movie, ♥♥♥♥♥♥ fastfood or disney land. once your saturated with all it has to offer youll get bored with it. HD2's success will be followed by a steady decline in player count. you know it, i know it, everyone knows it.

It's also published by playstation so its not some indie game.

It's developed by arrowhead, indie studio of titles like magicka.
They have half the employees compared to fartshark.

[Billy Lee]

I went in, watched 10 minutes of videos and forced training
you run, you shoot,
The game was made typically for a gamepad, not a keyboard
crash
doesn't find players
hype is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, and has the same mistakes as darktide at the beginning
and I have even less fps than in darktide

I'm leaving it for now, waiting to see how quickly they fix the matchmaking problem

[Kasrkin]

Deep Rock is better than HD2 and why:
1. You play as chad Dwarfes.
2. You can drink beer.
3. You can be drunk af in mission.
4. No microtransactions, only cometic DLC.
5. Free seasons.
6. Lore is original, not some cheap rip-off of Starship Troopers.
7. ROCK AND STONE!

[Anus Wizard]

Smasher님이 먼저 게시:

Yes Yes.
Do you want me, as a person with 2k hours in darktide, to tell you what has changed in a year?
1. Added unnecessary and uninteresting branches to the veteran, which did not affect his gameplay in any way.
2. The outdated, lazy and boring gacha grind weapon system that artificially stretches the gameplay is still in place.
3. The weapon customization system was made by Grasman - talented mod and was done perfectly.
4. Fatshark has not learned how to communicate with the community.
5. Swedish holidays
6. Memory leaks have not been fixed for more than six months.
7. Optimization has become better, but strange CTDs have appeared.
8. Two easily forgettable bosses, the meaning of which was exclusively for the hidden hardcore mode.
9. Rotation of skins in the premium store - two weeks. The quality of these skins is clipping, recolors at full price and strange visual solutions (deflated rebreather bag and non-canonical masks on the Krieg skin)
10. The number of nerfs continues to grow, as if we were playing eSports instead of power fantasy
11. A large number of bugs that have been stubbornly ignored from the first day. (for example: missing trapper sounds, mutants throwing you through textures)
12. For a year now there have been no updates to the free store or the ability to earn premium currency.

You can stay in darktide, run along corridors that you have memorized and which do not change in any way, shoot with a weapon that you have been grinding for ~200 hours and which will receive a nerf in the next big update, reducing its usefulness to a minimum

At the core, darktide is an incredibly dynamic and powerful game with an amazing soundtrack, but unfortunately it is supported by mediocrities and lazy people.
Is it better than Helldivers? No, these are completely different games and the only thing they have in common is the horde shooter genre.

Here is your clown, you deserve it as a 20+ gamer who think that darktide is a good game in a good state. xoxo

Everything you need to know about the turd

[Clyan]

Wacky Jack님이 먼저 게시:

Darktide is not a quick and accessible? What?

again, i dont see why you would compare those games to each other, but obviously you can't even differentiate and so you're the exact target audience of HD2. in a few month HD2 will be stale and then you will shut up and act as if nothing had happened.

But since you want to compare these to games, let's do it:

- DT has melee and range combat, and melee comes with different animations to increase gameplay depth; HD2 has 1 melee animation, but instead offers different fire option for ranged, which unfortunately make almost no difference
- DT both has melee and ranged special attacks; HD2 doesnt
- DT offers different playstyles, gear and passive build setups; HD2 offers a single slot for different gear properties that mean little to almost nothing
- DT level and art design are superb; HD2 comes with sandbox maps that are artificially created and yet all look the same, because the devs didnt take the time to create enough variation
- DT is balanced across all difficulties in reasonable steps; HD2 feels like a mess in that regard
- DT has crafting, not good crafting, but still; HD2 doesnt
- DT has pixel perfect movement and item interaction design; HD2 feels sloppy, unprecice and random
- DT hitboxes make sense; HD2 hitboxes are all over the place
- DT weapons all are viable; HD2 weapons are gimmicky, either too weak or too strong
- DT has audio cues; HD2 relies on you haveing 360 degree vision
- DT collision models work; HD2 has enemies clip through buildings and landscape
- DT cares about positioning and tactical thinking; HD2 only expects you to shoot and run away
- DT looks insane; HD2 looks like it was released in 2020
- HD2 has stratagems; DT doesnt - that the only thing i can see it doing better, but then again DT is a horde shooter in line of games like LFD1+2; HD2 is a mix of sandbox and horde shooter with its own spin to it

I could go on, but as I said i dont see why any sane person would actually compare these two games with each other. My guess is youre just here to fuel some dumbster fire so you can feel important even tho youre whole argument is based on logical errors to begin with.

[SteelaiRizel]

Billiam님이 먼저 게시:

SteelaiRizel님이 먼저 게시:

Ya as solid as the gameplay is (and no one can argue on that) , Darktide is a very poorly designed game in many aspects and not supported enough.

I love how often people say vague stuff like that. Actually define a gameplay flaw. I wanna see what your actually criticizing and what the flaw is that you don't like.

Sure that is EXTREMELY easy.

The crafting system. It is very poorly designed even compared to Vermintide 1 and 2 before it. It's one of most important aspects and one of the most painful. And given how much they ignore our feedback on it and have for most of the game's life span i am sure that is intentional to retain people grinding it.

Remember i said the gameplay is solid. If there is anything Fatshark never fails at, it is incredibly tight and fun first person gameplay i will play again and again, never really get tired of it. I have never seen another game handle it as well as them and who knows if we will. Given how many games i have and my choice of games, that is a big compliment from me. But there is a reason you never see anyone argue about it. It's just that good.

The crafting system is a big impact due to it's limitations and how much it impacts every other aspect of the game. It's the biggest thorn in the side of the game.

Sound design is a major problem in the game and has been for a long time , they say they will fix but i doubt it, they will probably just break it. Again.

I suppose most flaws in the game come from lack of content (it took until recently to even get two new decent maps worth anything) , terrible bugs (that when 'fixed' come back the next patch, Fatshark has been doing this since Vermintide 2) , promises they never made good on , the cash shop being what it is, and the crafting system.

The game is just flawed and is always on life support due to their lack of effort to honestly do anything with it for months on end. It needs more.

I am just salty because it's a game i know could be a lot greater. As i always am about games i really like. I loved Monster Hunter from the beginning but ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about constantly until they finally made good on the series potential with Monster Hunter World. It's tough love.

But Fatshark has fumbled so hard and shown such a lack of effort or even understanding of what the community wants or hell just in general a lack of competence in programming that i have no faith in them for any future games. I will always love Vermintide 1 and 2, and Darktide will always be a game i had great fun in but the proof is in the pudding as it were.

Actually Smasher hit it all on the head. Funny you made sure not to respond to that.

[Dragoon]

DT ain't the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ patron saint game either, out for a year now and what is there to show for it. Just seems like such a 180 from vermintide, I think we all wanted the full breath of 40k or at least part of it to rip and tear apart (like deathwing), and all we got were some regular ass rejects.

[Starbarian]

I personally think that division 2 is a better game.

[Frank Knowhere]

The amount of cope in this thread is concerning.
Someone even saying HD2 will be "dead" in 3 months..
couldn't be more dead than DT is lmao. The fact that people have to make posts about
a completely different game on a game they like speaks volumes.
They're both coop shooters, that's about it. You like DT, cool. Wtf HD2 got to do with it?

[Starbarian]

Frank Knowhere님이 먼저 게시:

The amount of cope in this thread is concerning.
Someone even saying HD2 will be "dead" in 3 months..
couldn't be more dead than DT is lmao. The fact that people have to make posts about
a completely different game on a game they like speaks volumes.
They're both coop shooters, that's about it. You like DT, cool. Wtf HD2 got to do with it?

Some people tie they identity to company or a game which is sad.

[†]

I spent 1k hours in darktide, hoping and waiting for fatshark would stay true to their word. As of now I've lost all faith in them and am no longer willing to spend anymore time in their ♥♥♥♥♥♥ servers made with a barely functioning engine. Fatshark despises its playerbase and refuses to take any criticism seriously. They promised so much and left us empty handed. They then promised us fixes and regular updates, we still have yet to see.
Arrowhead has already put out 4 patches for Helldivers 2 and has been trying to do their best to fix their failures from success as much as possible. You're really going to defend a developer that says so much and does so little?

[Icevenom]

Hotter take: You can enjoy both..