Cliffhanger Acheivement No Longer Possible?

[Yeowskii]

Update: Transit Hub HL-16-11, Chasm Logistratum (Raid). The very narrow bridge just before the first horde spawn. I used a force sword which gave me some better blocking potential to gather enemies up on a lower difficulty. Once enough were on the bridge I jumped off forwards and to the side of the group. This specific bridge is narrow enough that if you use the shriek ability while strafe jumping right up against the group it'll knock enough off. Previously, shriek had enough knockback to hit off a whole group from the platform way off to the side of the bridge...

I've been trying for days on the maps everyone suggests with both venting shriek and smite, but these abilities seem to have had their knockback greatly nerfed over time. On Vigil Station Oblivium, I've never gotten more than 4 enemies to fall off whether its with shriek or spamming smite. And hordes don't spawn far back enough on Chasm Logistratum and Hab Dreyko. Has anyone gotten this penance AFTER June 2024?

Maybe it's worth asking: if a penance needs a singular specific set up, potentially multiple people helping you, and several hours to do one 2 second task, and the original mechanics related to it don't even function the same anymore, then maybe it needs to be changed? At least lowered to like 4-5 enemies instead of 7. I've been able to do that a few times across my 30-ish attempts.

Last time I had this much trouble was with abhor the mutant because the game's engine acts weird with the timing and what counts as "while charging," but I got that after only 5 tries a bit of loadout testing...

[Vrakos Anthrakir]

I'm given understand shoving the enemies first then forcepushing them is the way to do it but I haven't really tried to get the achieve yet so

[[Rōn]Sky's0]

I have but important to mention that I simply got lucky in horde timing and positionning (horde spawn right before we had to jump to next section, jumped and ult as their was no ledge after the jump off)

[Burnt Pies]

Got this one a few weeks back, Smite on difficulty 5 Oblivium. Climbing onto the window to the left of the bridge gave me the best possible angle and a helpful Shieldgryn friend blocked the doorway so I got the best possible concentration of groaners for it. I held the smite for just long enough for it to chain maximally then let go, got the penance/achievement a few seconds later once the mobs hit the killplane.

Knockback's been heavily reduced on a lot of psyker gear, for sure. This was one of the character penances I was least confident of being able to do.

[Buzzles]

Shout then use Forcesword or las pistol for the block pushes, easy.

[Unpure]

I been struggling with this one as well, It seem to require so many things to be align for it to work, that or just crazy luck.
I'm at 41/60 on Psyker, and completing Cliffhanger would unlock several.

On the subject of unreasonable Penances; Psyker and Zealot both have a penances that requires another penance that can only be completed in a Private game: Malleus Monstrorum & Just a Flesh Wound, respectively.
I get why those where made into Private only, they where really disruptive for other players. But seems silly to then make them a requirement for other penances.

[Linop]

I managed to do this one just recently. It was on the carnival map where you tag the stim crates in the large arena. If you use the force swords push with venting shriek whilst standing in front of the spawn door closest to the button to start the event you can keep the spawning enemies from entering with the force swords push. If you keep this up for a decent amount of time and then use venting shriek you'll push a lot them off the spawn platform. It's a small square that you can just about see when the door opens, that's what makes it possible to complete the penance there.

[PhellAsleep]

I did it on Vigil Station Oblivium, during the last stage with the extended bridges. I was in a PUG that communicated and a Slab Ogryn clogged up the horde on a bridge for me to pop Venting and spam the Force Sword push to get it done.

A lot of the penances are actually very easy to do if you have just one other person to coordinate with.

[Yeowskii]

Messaggio originale di Buzzles:

Shout then use Forcesword or las pistol for the block pushes, easy.

Messaggio originale di Vrakos Anthrakir:

I'm given understand shoving the enemies first then forcepushing them is the way to do it but I haven't really tried to get the achieve yet so

I'll try stacking sword pushes with shriek or something, will report back if it works out.

[[HI5]Turbine]

I did it few days ago at Vigil Station.
I tried blitz, force push from force sword - no luck. And then last pack on second bridge... I asked team that I need pepnance before, so guy just blocked them and bridge was "full" at that moment. After so many tries I become sad and raged so just came and use usual block to push them. And I get it.

[Unpure]

I got it now, joined a pug on Vigil Station Oblivium and asked them.
We tried several spots, but it worked best on the walkway at the last stage of the mission.
Used Smite, and the push it gives. Had to spam it several times, but it worked in the end.

Many thanks to people here with the suggestions, and to the group I played with

[Katze auf Ecstasy]

i only seem to get trolls or analphabets who purposely kill the horde i want to push down... always 1 dumbass there... trying since a week now lol