Warhammer 40,000: Darktide

Warhammer 40,000: Darktide

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Full Price AND IAP???
I am a huge 40k and have no issue dropping $40 for a full featured game. But if there are in app purchases or "premium currency" then there is no way in hell I will ever buy this game. What a massive letdown to get all excited and then to find out they are going to milk the fan base like some F2P trash mobile game.
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Well I personally Identify as an average 40K, and I suggest you do not freak out till you see the finished product.

If you want trash mobile games to scream at, check out Diablo Immoral. <- no typos in there.
Master_Quack14 lähetti viestin:
I am a huge 40k and have no issue dropping $40 for a full featured game. But if there are in app purchases or "premium currency" then there is no way in hell I will ever buy this game. What a massive letdown to get all excited and then to find out they are going to milk the fan base like some F2P trash mobile game.


Agreed. And people are ok with this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ as well, hence the reason why Diablo Immortal exists.
Master_Quack14 lähetti viestin:
I am a huge 40k and have no issue dropping $40 for a full featured game. But if there are in app purchases or "premium currency" then there is no way in hell I will ever buy this game. What a massive letdown to get all excited and then to find out they are going to milk the fan base like some F2P trash mobile game.
As much as it hurts, 40$ can't be considered as a "full price" anymore.
60$/€ became the new norm for that therm.

But to the game.....Fatshark did the exact same thing in Vermintide2 too. And i have to say, it's not a cashgrab.
Yeah there are COSMETIC items you can get with either buying premium currency, or buying the cosmetic packs right away.
BUT
You can earn 90% of the cosmetic items available through playing the game too. Premium currency is obtainable by playing alone the game as well. And i'm sure/hope, they will do it here too.
So just wait till release before you judge.

On the other hand asSamEstine said, there are way way way worse business practices out there. How Fatshark did it, it is still fine and on a reasonable level.
Nihil lähetti viestin:
Master_Quack14 lähetti viestin:
I am a huge 40k and have no issue dropping $40 for a full featured game. But if there are in app purchases or "premium currency" then there is no way in hell I will ever buy this game. What a massive letdown to get all excited and then to find out they are going to milk the fan base like some F2P trash mobile game.
As much as it hurts, 40$ can't be considered as a "full price" anymore.
60$/€ became the new norm for that therm.

But to the game.....Fatshark did the exact same thing in Vermintide2 too. And i have to say, it's not a cashgrab.
Yeah there are COSMETIC items you can get with either buying premium currency, or buying the cosmetic packs right away.
BUT
You can earn 90% of the cosmetic items available through playing the game too. Premium currency is obtainable by playing alone the game as well. And i'm sure/hope, they will do it here too.
So just wait till release before you judge.

On the other hand asSamEstine said, there are way way way worse business practices out there. How Fatshark did it, it is still fine and on a reasonable level.


What a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid argument.. "There is worse so this is ok"..
First, how the hell do you know this is not a cashgrab when its not even out?
Second, how do you know you can earn 90% of the cosmetics through playing?
Stelis lähetti viestin:
Nihil lähetti viestin:
As much as it hurts, 40$ can't be considered as a "full price" anymore.
60$/€ became the new norm for that therm.

But to the game.....Fatshark did the exact same thing in Vermintide2 too. And i have to say, it's not a cashgrab.
Yeah there are COSMETIC items you can get with either buying premium currency, or buying the cosmetic packs right away.
BUT
You can earn 90% of the cosmetic items available through playing the game too. Premium currency is obtainable by playing alone the game as well. And i'm sure/hope, they will do it here too.
So just wait till release before you judge.

On the other hand asSamEstine said, there are way way way worse business practices out there. How Fatshark did it, it is still fine and on a reasonable level.


What a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid argument.. "There is worse so this is ok"..
First, how the hell do you know this is not a cashgrab when its not even out?
Second, how do you know you can earn 90% of the cosmetics through playing?
Where did you get the idea that i said "There is worse so this is ok"? Read what i wrote and get it as it is, not as you WANT IT to be.
It is not ok because there are worse.
It was only an indicator that OP is complaining here about such tiny things while there are far more worse business practices out there, with which i have the feeling he/she is totally fine with because it's "FREE"

Andd AGAIN....read what i wrote. Where I explicitly wrote:


Nihil lähetti viestin:
So just wait till release before you judge.

And because i see you are going full in with the agression level of reply, i will go woith that mentality too and want to point you to the fact that i wrote

Nihil lähetti viestin:
Fatshark did the exact same thing in Vermintide2 too. And i have to say, it's not a cashgrab.
VERMINTIDE2....i wrote it about freakin Vermintide 2. And not about Darktide. You see any difference here?

And how do i know you can earn 90% of the cosmetics with playing ? Because maybe...just maybe i played the hell out of that game. Because as I said....i wrote that ABOUT VERMINTIDE!
Viimeisin muokkaaja on Nihil; 20.6.2022 klo 1.38
turbogum lähetti viestin:
Nihil lähetti viestin:
VERMINTIDE2....i wrote it about freakin Vermintide 2. And not about Darktide. You see any difference here?

And how do i know you can earn 90% of the cosmetics with playing ? Because maybe...just maybe i played the hell out of that game. Because as I said....i wrote that ABOUT VERMINTIDE!

You can't earn "90%" of the cosmetics in Vermintide by just playing the game, hell, some of the ones that were in pre-release trailers weren't even included in the loot tables.
So...by Vermintide the original discussion was about Vermintide 2. Not Vermintide1. I was just lazy to weite every single time "2".
And why is the monetization disgusting? AGAIN! You can buy every cosmetic item with "Shilling". Which can be obtained by simply playing the game.
Only thing you can only get by paying real money are the premium cosmetics. But it is only cosmetic. Just don't buy them? Easy as that. How better or worse the premium cosmetics are compared to the ones you can get for shilling is subjective. For me, most of the premium cosmetics are simply ugly as hell. The only decent one is the Trophy of the Gave.

So for me, since they are worthless, they are definitely overpriced as you said. But i don't buy them neither. I'm not stnpid. If someone loves them and buys them, they are I assume a fair price for that person. But again...it is COSMETIC.
If they keep that monetization in Darktide 2, i'm more than happy with that, since I know, i won't spend a single cent on cosmetic items.

But funny that you are the one who is so heavily criticizing them and their assumed future monetization methods while you are also part of the problem. Already owning Darktide? Why did you pre-purchase if you know nothing about these things? Are you afraid that they will run out of copies, so you quickly pre-purchased it?
Just wait till release if you are so concerned.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on Nihil; 20.6.2022 klo 3.32
Nihil lähetti viestin:
You can earn 90% of the cosmetic items available through playing the game too. Premium currency is obtainable by playing alone the game as well. And i'm sure/hope, they will do it here too.
You won't be able to get Darktide premium currency without paying. It's in the FAQ.
They also say the premium store will be how you buy DLC. If you could slowly grind aquilas by playing normally you'd eventually be able to get all the DLC for free. No way they'd ever allow that. You gotta pay.
turbogum lähetti viestin:
Nihil lähetti viestin:
So...by Vermintide the original discussion was about Vermintide 2. Not Vermintide1. I was just lazy to weite every single time "2".

Yeah, I was talking about Vermintide 2, V1 has an alright monetization, I bought all of the DLCs.
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Haaaaaaaha okay than we flawlessly missunderstood each other. Great. :D Sorry for that :D

But back to the cosmetic items with shillings vs Premium cosmetics.
Dunno. I have some really beloved favorites amongs the shilling cosmetics. Yeah sadly Bardin is the only one who has really creative ones, and Kruber, and Kerilian some noce ones. Saltz and Sienna has just "meeeeeh" cosmetics. But sadly for me even the premium ones for these characters are ugly. So.....PERSONALLY i don't see any value in those premium cosmetics. The only one i find really cool the Malekith one for Kerillian. But i don't play her often so.....no point for those cosmetics again.
Again, as long as the paywalled items are only cosmetic, i don't care.
We could argue however if the content and character path expansions are rightfully payed DLCs.
I find the price tag on WoM ridiculous. And as long the extra career paths are around 3€, i can accept that, since there are stillmore than enough paths to play in the vanilla. But if someone says, it is a rip off, i can understand that too. But i think Fatshark learned it's lesson, since Chaos Waste was a free content update on the other hand. So they are learning. That's why i have hopes for Darktide.
Hopes. Not trust. Just hopes. :)




King Fossil lähetti viestin:
Nihil lähetti viestin:
You can earn 90% of the cosmetic items available through playing the game too. Premium currency is obtainable by playing alone the game as well. And i'm sure/hope, they will do it here too.
You won't be able to get Darktide premium currency without paying. It's in the FAQ.
They also say the premium store will be how you buy DLC. If you could slowly grind aquilas by playing normally you'd eventually be able to get all the DLC for free. No way they'd ever allow that. You gotta pay.

But again as i already wrote. If those are cosmetic only items, or bigger content updates/extansions, I can live with that. Since i can't give less cräp about cosmetics. The issues start as soon they want to get money for things like.....WoM in Vermintide 2. After which they changed their market practice and released CW for free. But as I wrote in my first comment....let's see when the game releases.
Rippa 20.6.2022 klo 11.29 
SamEstine lähetti viestin:
Well I personally Identify as an average 40K, and I suggest you do not freak out till you see the finished product.

If you want trash mobile games to scream at, check out Diablo Immoral. <- no typos in there.
i heard to max out ur character from lvl 1 to dakka you need to spend 100k, https://gamerant.com/diablo-immortal-pay-to-win-legendary-gems/ oh wait thats just gems...
Kaptin Dakka lähetti viestin:
SamEstine lähetti viestin:
Well I personally Identify as an average 40K, and I suggest you do not freak out till you see the finished product.

If you want trash mobile games to scream at, check out Diablo Immoral. <- no typos in there.
i heard to max out ur character from lvl 1 to dakka you need to spend 100k, https://gamerant.com/diablo-immortal-pay-to-win-legendary-gems/ oh wait thats just gems...
You guys don't own banks?
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then dont buy it lol nobody cares if you do or not
B-O-N 20.6.2022 klo 14.48 
Nihil lähetti viestin:
But to the game.....Fatshark did the exact same thing in Vermintide2 too.
No, they did not. V2 has no premium currency.

Nihil lähetti viestin:
Premium currency is obtainable by playing alone the game as well.
Wtf are you talking about.

Nihil lähetti viestin:
You can buy every cosmetic item with "Shilling".
No, you can't, there are cosmetics that are locked behind challenges.
personally i identify as a 32yo wizardcel and i think 45usd is way too much ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
MOON lähetti viestin:
T E N C E N T

THIS!! Nothing else need to be said
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