What other firearms could the Ogryn use?

[Malidictus]

This started as a joking discussion between me and a friend of mine. I'd propose weapons I wish the Ogryn had, he'd shoot it down as them being too valuable and "fragile" for an Ogryn. Heavy Bolter? Too valuable. Plasma Cannon? Way too fragile. Lascannon? Ogryn don't aim. As funny as that is, though, it does raise the question... what COULD Ogyn use? We'll have to get new ranged weapons for them at some point, and I'm not sure what would make sense.

Earlier today, that same friend of mine proposed an Autocannon. Judging by what I can find online, that... seems reasonable? I mean it's a crew-served weapon, but then so is the Stubber, and it doesn't seem any more sphistiacted, valuable or fragile than that. So that might be AN option.

But what else? If we were adding new, presumably cool weapons for Ogryn, what do you fine people feel would make sense?

[Harukage]

Autocannon is already excessive for this games scale. The gun is enough to deal with light to medium vechicles depending on armoring. And it is still an automatic weapon using modern autocannon caliber shells. It cuts through heavely armored infantry in a heartbeat. And it is also very accurate. It will be a birth of a sniper Ogryn.

[Χάρης]

dual wielding rocket launchers.

[Heretical_Cactus]

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Origineel geplaatst door Heretical_Cactus:

Ripper Saw, own weapon type (Like how there are different Lasgun and Autogun types, each with their variants), Ranged slot, but work much like the Grenadier Gauntlet, where the only ranged capacity is when the weapon is aimed/braced, and the Primary attack is a Chainsaw attack, with some different attack moves which can be charged for heavies, for the special, it would have the revving up like it does on the other chain weapons

That's a neat idea - basically a non-explosive version of the Grenade Gauntlet, from what it sounds like. That could work. Do you have a reference on what a Ripper Saw is, though? My searches only show Ripper GUNS and some kind of Ripper Tyranid unit. [/quote]

https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Ripper_Gun

>Ripper Guns can also be fitted with Ripper Saws. A Ripper Saw is, as the name implies, a saw blade that is attached to the end of a Ripper Gun which is intended to provide the Ogryn with an effective close combat melee weapon once they close with the enemy.

[Malidictus]

Origineel geplaatst door Heretical_Cactus:

https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Ripper_Gun

>Ripper Guns can also be fitted with Ripper Saws. A Ripper Saw is, as the name implies, a saw blade that is attached to the end of a Ripper Gun which is intended to provide the Ogryn with an effective close combat melee weapon once they close with the enemy.

Oh. OK, that's completely not what I thought you were suggesting. This sounds like just a Ripper Gun with a chainsword bayonette. It's not a bad idea, but I definitely don't see it getting the Grenade Gauntlet treatment. Mind you, I wouldn't be opposed to it. It just feels out-of-place to me, considering we already have plenty of Ripper Guns.

[FeedMe]

Origineel geplaatst door Harukage:

Nah bolters themselves are not that rare. The problem is that that man-portable variants are still heavy and cubersome, and ammunition for them is kind of cost a lot. That is why you will mostly find them in use by arbites, sororitas or inquisition. Heavy bolters though are very widespread in IG, both in a format of a weapon team and auxiliary weapons for vechicles. If an Ogryn is smart enough to be granted a heavy stubber ( and that is not a common thing, as Ogryns tend to love booming sounds of guns, and usualy just waste a whole magazine at once given chance ) he can also use a HB.
Normal Plasma Guns while kind of valuable are still among the most widespread special weapons in use in the wide Imperium, including IG. The issue here is that it tends to explode in hands of idiots. That is why you need responsible people to handle plasma, as well as good at shooting to land most of their shots on target, and not overuse and oherheat the gun in question. Still plasma wielders often have noticeble burn marks on their hands and faces.

Interestingly plasma weapons used to be common among orks but I assume that's been reconned around the same time that the standard ork gun stopped being a bolter

[FeedMe]

Origineel geplaatst door Malidictus:

Origineel geplaatst door Harukage:

IG heavy bolters literally use standart box magazines. There is no need for any huge ammo packs.

This sounds promising. Speaking as someone with limited lore knowledge - what do IG and HB stand for in terms of Heavy Bolters? I'm kind of using this thread to learn as well as to exchange ideas :)

Older model heavy bolter Marines only had box mags I think the first belt fed HB was a chaos marine

[FeedMe]

Origineel geplaatst door covfefe drinker:

yes, he could easily have the morningstar blown up for allowing ogryn that kind of equipment. it's a dire political concern, ogryn are tightly managed. even the number of bone'eads allowed is kept low in order to keep them in check.

again, the kind a sm can lift and carry is different from the field serviced weapon. they come from different forge patterns, and they go to different forces entirely. some of the field serviced ones may have a box magazine, but they also have a 50 lb tripod that goes with it everywhere. it's not the sort of thing you can just modify in the field; if you take the tripod off it'll overheat and explode just like a real hmg.

stormvermin are chaos troops, and thus superrodently strong. same as the reaper ogryn, who also have bone'eads and presumably implants to go with them. chaos doesn't care about overequipped ogryn, since they were loyal during the heresy and many ogryn worlds had to be purged as a result. if an ogryn who could pick up one of their weapons did they'd be executed.

none of the prisoners are real heretics. they're just low-level criminals guilty of loitering and other petty crimes. heretics are executed on the spot.

Now you've lost me, who is going to blow up an Inquisitorial ship? Even gulliman is hesitant to out right over rule the inquisition.
Individual Inquisitors are essentially a lore in to themselves, some employ xenos and some even use daemons..