Hounds have WAY too much hp

[Snobby Hobo]

The annoying modifier really brings this home. Buggy animations and frame skipping aside, the hounds eat up so much ammunition it's actually stupid. In a lot of situations they force you to shoot them because they will engage with 2-3 at a time, and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ they take so much damage before going down. This on top of already being hard to hit.

Right now this modifier is totally busted as it will spawn around 10-25 additional hounds over the duration of a Damnation match (which is usually slow and methodical). These hounds have around 2000 hp (lol), which can add up to a maximum of around 50k health to chew through. If it spawns three at a time, which happens occasionally, this means you have 6000 hp hounds zooming around - an accumulated healthpool that is around 50% larger than a Mutie - which are also notorious resource hogs but much easier to deal with.

This threat shouldn't be about resources - they are hard disablers that also deal corruption damage. They do not need to be so tanky on top of it all. Hounds can easily stand to lose 30-40% of their current health: they will still very easily survive a hit/burst to the face and demand some kind of dedicated focus fire without actually just eating up the team's ammo for no good reason.

[Godsdoomer]

Time for mass euthinization.

[Snobby Hobo]

Originally posted by Godsdoomer:

Time for mass euthinization.

Considering the current health pool they have you'd have to use 5 times the doses.

[2D > 3D WEEB 4 LIFE]

I'm convinced that something's wrong with the damage model and that they don't even have that much health because a single heavy attack to the neck will usually kill them.

[Snobby Hobo]

Originally posted by ANIME ARMPITS:

I'm convinced that something's wrong with the damage model and that they don't even have that much health because a single heavy attack to the neck will usually kill them.

You can test it for yourself. They take around 2000 damage on Damnation to kill.

[Trashbag]

Honestly this seems like a running theme with a lot of Damnation. I haven't played too much of it myself, but hp scaling is always a dangerous game for a lot of...well, games, because you run the risk of obliterating satisfying damage thresholds and unbalancing a lot of encounters in a way which grinds the pace of the game (which Darktide is absolutely guilty of).

My primary thought is that health scaling should be much less significant on certain enemies - especially ones that weren't meant to be tanky in the first place. We're already raising the difficulty through damage and enemy density by a significant margin.

[2D > 3D WEEB 4 LIFE]

Originally posted by Incredibly average:

You can test it for yourself. They take around 2000 damage on Damnation to kill.

I know that they have a large health pool but what I'm saying is that there has to be something wrong with them as the consistency is all over the place.

I've played multiple games on Damnation where I shot them in the head multiple times and still had to finish them off with 1-2 heavy attacks but sometimes they will randomly die to a single heavy attack to the neck without suffering any prior damage.

[IDiivil]

Originally posted by ANIME ARMPITS:

Originally posted by Incredibly average:

You can test it for yourself. They take around 2000 damage on Damnation to kill.

I know that they have a large health pool but what I'm saying is that there has to be something wrong with them as the consistency is all over the place.

I've played multiple games on Damnation where I shot them in the head multiple times and still had to finish them off with 1-2 heavy attacks but sometimes they will randomly die to a single heavy attack to the neck without suffering any prior damage.

I could recreate something similar in the meat grinder, so I feel like you might be on to something.

[sergantuss]

i mean *naked* dog can tank more bolter bullets then armored elite(not armore ogryns sure)?
sound about right