So just tested out the Power Maul and Crusher

[Myta]

they both are awful, how did you manage to mess this up this badly? there's really no reason to use either weapon

[Pickle Bath]

lol wait a couple weeks and revisit and see what you think

[Beatbeat Goodbeat]

Because the devs balance around Malice where every weapon is viable.

[Graf Vigah]

feels like "oh no they angry quick we need some thing!"

[Myta]

Originally posted by Beatbeat Goodbeat:

Because the devs balance around Malice where every weapon is viable.

I played in Malice with my Power Maul it sucked, and in Heresy the Crusher is entirely useless, it took me 3 hits to kill common pox walkers

[Cacomistle]

Ordinarily, I'd try them out for myself before making any judgments. Even if they do suck, I have fun with some bad weapons (like I had fun with pickaxe in VT2).

But... I didn't get either from the rng shop. So I'm just gonna assume they're not worth opening the game again for. Thank goodness they added all this stupid rng so I don't play their game.

[Myta]

Originally posted by Cacomistle:

Ordinarily, I'd try them out for myself before making any judgments. Even if they do suck, I have fun with some bad weapons (like I had fun with pickaxe in VT2).

But... I didn't get either from the rng shop. So I'm just gonna assume they're not worth opening the game again for. Thank goodness they added all this stupid rng so I don't waste my time with their game.

I'm gunna be honest, I think the Heavy Sword and Thunder Hammer before the buffs were better then the Crusher is now, and as for the Ogryn's Power Maul, the Knives are still better, and the default Maul is still better

[Bobochen]

u know its not just about damage right?

[Emilia Tempest]

The powermaul special is just a huge disappointment.
It pumps up the damage of the first light attack up to the damage of the bully club heavy 1.
Yet the BC heavy 1 comes out way faster, is cancelable so you can put out even more heavies in quicker succession and even staggers everything (except mutants and bosses, crushers take 2 hits and ragers wont get staggered in their combo). so you pretty much stagger lock most enemies.

The PM is decent with hordes but is more about stagger, which, I rather prefer the knife that absolutely shreds a horde than having this strange weapon.
The power-up even loweres your horde damage as the stagger from the explosion will knock stuff out of your hitbox.

Its a useable weapon, but its certainly not a good weapon. You have a way better time to just focus on damage with the club, or tanking with the shield or shredding hordes with that one knife.
The powermaul should have been the weapon that absolutely shreds single targets as besides the BC you pretty much have meh single target damage on all other melees.
But hey, maybe in patch soon(TM) they buff it a little.

[Myta]

Originally posted by Bobochen:

u know its not just about damage right?

yea the only upside is the power attack knocks back enemies, but ti doesn't do damage, the Hammer atleast cleaves much better and Eviscerator does stronger crowd control, there's nothing the Crusher does better then Eviscerator, Thunder Hammer or arguably even the Knife

[Myta]

Originally posted by Slithy:

At least you've seen one. I haven't seen a single one in the shop yet.

I bought the better of the two offered in the shop, upgraded it from white to purple and it has 372 Power Score, and it's just god awful, the lowest stat on it is the Crowd Control, but it doesn't even matter because it doesn't cleave well, and the power charge hit just knocks enemies back with light stun

[Runic Tunic]

I'm about to hop on and see for myself, but if true....well I wish I was surprised. Was already quite a bit disappointed from the actual lack of weapon type/playstyle variety. The fact it may suck just seems kinda obvious at this point, considering the state of things currently.

[Myta]

Originally posted by Runic Tunic:

I'm about to hop on and see for myself, but if true....well I wish I was surprised. Was already quite a bit disappointed from the actual lack of weapon type/playstyle variety. The fact it may suck just seems kinda obvious at this point, considering the state of things currently.

Eviscerator heavy cleave swings cut through many more enemies even with bad Blessings and Traits, Thunder Hammer does better single target damage and heavy swings do much stronger cleave and knock back, Knife on Zealot is kinda just OP with Lacerate, but the moral of the story, even Heavy Sword now is stronger then the Crusher

[No emaN]

For those used to Vermintide 2 in this thread think of the weapon like this.

Sienna mace without Heavy 1. Single target damage on light 1 and 2, light 3 & 4 have a convenience to loop. You may use push attack to get into the horde control sooner. Both heavies have good stagger and CC. Knife Through Butter with weapon special can open up even the most dense hordes unparalleled horde control as Ogryn provides.

The Power Output stat determines (Power when using weapon special on light and heavy, Blast radius, Epicentre radius, Area suppression radius, and Area Suppression). In using the weapon special I've seen some gunners fret and take cover.

It only needs a faster special start time, movement, and to not disable the damn thing after charging.

[Runic Tunic]

Originally posted by Myta:

Originally posted by Runic Tunic:

I'm about to hop on and see for myself, but if true....well I wish I was surprised. Was already quite a bit disappointed from the actual lack of weapon type/playstyle variety. The fact it may suck just seems kinda obvious at this point, considering the state of things currently.

Eviscerator heavy cleave swings cut through many more enemies even with bad Blessings and Traits, Thunder Hammer does better single target damage and heavy swings do much stronger cleave and knock back, Knife on Zealot is kinda just OP with Lacerate, but the moral of the story, even Heavy Sword now is stronger then the Crusher

I knew about the knife build. And despite it's popularity I wasn't a fan of thunderhammer before (I still think it should have an AOE implemented into it's charge, or something similar).

Man it feels like all the weapons just play the same, or when there is a distinct difference, they're not built to make them viable/fun. What the hell is going on over there at FS HQ? DOn't mean to bithc but nothing felt great before. Sounds like even less feels good now.

[RNG]

My Ogryn Bully Club literally hits 950 damage per heavy attack because it has +20% Power for duration of Heavy Attack (scales with charge time).
Every single heavy attack deals +60% Power. Nothing compares to this. I can kill a DAMNATION CRUSHER in 3 heavy attacks, only.

Power Maul is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ joke.