Any Stamina Curio Enjoyers?

[minecraftshep]

The most common loadout I've heard from others is two Health curios and one Wound curio, but usually I never see anyone mention Stamina. I know Toughness isn't popular to put on curios, I agree that Health is better, but what about Stamina?

Personally I love my +3 Stamina curio, I used to equip two +3 Stamina curios as zealot with a combat knife - which was admittedly ridiculous but I was able to sprint for the entire mission without being out of stamina and could block pretty much any attack. Push attacks went crazy as well, especially with an axe.

[Ishan451]

Originally posted by minecraftshep:

The most common loadout I've heard from others is [...] one Wound curio

Terrible advice. You should have only as many wound curios as you need.

Additional Wound Curios are only necessary if you do go down more than once between health station and don't feel confident to be able to go past a health station with 50% corruption on you.

Originally posted by minecraftshep:

I know Toughness isn't popular to put on curios

Since when?! People might argue over Health vs Toughness, since Corruption isn't % based but a fix damage number and as such Health also serves as Corruption resistance of sorts (and helps withstanding Sniper shots), but Toughness is a regenerative stat and most classes have abilities that restore toughness based on % of their total Toughness. As such it can make quite the difference between restoring 50% of 100 base Toughness or of 150 base toughness.

Again, the decision depends on the ease with which you can avoid being hit. If you get hit a lot, then high toughness isn't as important as high health.

Originally posted by minecraftshep:

I agree that Health is better

Highly subjective, and you can argue the merits back and forth until the cows come home.

Originally posted by minecraftshep:

but what about Stamina?

Depends entirely on how much you block / shove vs dodge. Personally i always have a +3 Stamina Curio, with exception of the Ogryn.

[DotNL]

HP + HP + CR is what you want, if you havent played enough yet u might not understand that there is no debating this.

[Felix]

Imo stamina curios don't provide as much utility as toughness or health curios.

Arguably the class that benefits most from stamina curios is the sharpshooter because they have to wait the longest before stamina starts regenerating. Psykers have the fastest stamina regeneration time to the point that you can basically spam shove attacks, Ogryns already have a massive stamina pool and the Zealot already has a dash ability and the 2nd fastest stamina regeneration time

[Ishan451]

Originally posted by DotNL:

HP + HP + CR is what you want, if you havent played enough yet u might not understand that there is no debating this.

There is no CR... the 4 Curio Stats are HP, Toughness, Stamina and Wound.

Originally posted by Felix:

Psykers have the fastest stamina regeneration time to the point that you can basically spam shove attacks

More Stamina helps keeping up with the Team better, tho. As Psyker.

[DotNL]

Originally posted by Ishan451:

Originally posted by DotNL:

HP + HP + CR is what you want, if you havent played enough yet u might not understand that there is no debating this.

There is no CR... the 4 Curio Stats are HP, Toughness, Stamina and Wound.

Originally posted by Felix:

Psykers have the fastest stamina regeneration time to the point that you can basically spam shove attacks

More Stamina helps keeping up with the Team better, tho. As Psyker.

As a psyker, others have to keep up with you, not the other way lol.

You run HP + HP+ CR Ability cd x 3, (+78% hp) 267 hp, 45% corruption resistance, 12% ability cooldown. This is the best setup u could possibly do, dont bother to go into discussion with me unless you have over 2500 hours played.

[suboptimal]

I do a +3 stam on everything except my Psyker. I enjoy having the extra bars for sprinting and meleeing. And sprinting into a melee situation. Psyker doesn't get it because I play almost completely as a staff/brainburster and melee only in very extreme emergency situations.

[Yasahi]

Originally posted by DotNL:

Originally posted by Ishan451:

There is no CR... the 4 Curio Stats are HP, Toughness, Stamina and Wound.

More Stamina helps keeping up with the Team better, tho. As Psyker.

As a psyker, others have to keep up with you, not the other way lol.

You run HP + HP+ CR Ability cd x 3, (+78% hp) 267 hp, 45% corruption resistance, 12% ability cooldown. This is the best setup u could possibly do, dont bother to go into discussion with me unless you have over 2500 hours played.

Psyker base sprint speed is 5 and 2.5 when you're out of stamina. For Ogryns it's 5 and 3.75, Veterans 5.2 and 2.6 and for Zealots 5.2 and 3.9. Psyker will be the one left behind unless they're running mobility enhancing weapons while the others have mobility reducing weapons.

All those hours and you haven't realized that there's only four different Blessings on curios?

You can have +1 Wound, +1-3 Max Stamina, +17% Toughness or +21% Health as a Blessing. There's no other options.

People are talking about Blessings, not Perks. Your list is missing the third Blessing, which is what's being debated. Also, Corruption Resistance is really not the best.

As to the question at hand: I run 2x Health, 1x Toughness on Ogryn, 2x Toughness, 1x Health on Zealot and 3x Health on Psyker currently. They're a personal preference based on playstyle.

Wounds are not worth it.

[Steinar]

I've honestly neglected Stamina curios and not even tried them, though I've saved some of the +3 ones I've seen.

Seeing how little it matters what curios I run with when it comes to Toughness and Health, I'm actually curious if Stamina could make more of a difference. Thanks for the reminder to check out Stamina.

[Super-XIX]

I run a +3 Stam curio on my Chainaxe builds but generally find that neither my Ogryn or Psyker are ever really low on Stamina except after sprinting into a new area (and I run Stamina Regen on as many Curios as I can on everyone but Psyker, whose base Stamina Regen is through the roof).

I don't particularly think arguing over HP/Toughness/Wounds is a particularly important distinction for the other curios, because it'll mostly come down to playstyle, personal preference and what curios you even have available.

[Repentance†]

Originally posted by Of Iron and Gold:

I'm just here to be flabbergasted at that curio choice. HP, HP, Wound?! That's what I would tell people to take if I was trolling them!

It's Toughness x3 on every class. One +3 Stamina curio mixed in I think would be fine, especially as Ogryn who can block Crusher/Mauler overheads which no one else can do. Except for Veteran but he doesn't block them so much as his toughness can get so high that 1 overhead can't break it.

Are you trolling? The numbers don't lie HP has always been better than toughness.

[Vodkat The Wreckless]

Personally i run three health curios with Stamina efficiency, Corruption resist and if i can roll all three minor toughness.

When we have two grims i have more health than most Ogryns.

[Panzer]

1: 21% HP + 5% HP
2: +3 Stamina + 5% HP
3: +3 Stamina + 5% HP

XD I play T5 and no problem. I love to run and parryyyy!

[SpitefulSpirit]

i use 3 stamina and health and a wound on my zealot

[Steinar]

Originally posted by PatriotOgre:

Are you trolling? The numbers don't lie HP has always been better than toughness.

What numbers?

Yea, if you aren't good at Toughness management, go for Health. But don't dismiss Toughness as bad.

As 'Of Iron and Gold' insinuates, you have an active role in your Toughness regeneration and damage reduction. The better you play, the more Toughness you regenerate, the harder you become to kill, and the more offensive you can be, which means you get even more Toughness regeneration. Toughness is skill, health is not.

[varicose 'vascular' vinny]

Fat Shark still hasn't fixed Stamina curios (you get 1 less block in the full game than the meat grinder) but its still a strong loadout.