keep dueling swords unique to psyker

[Neomir]

for obvious reasons

[stump362]

I agree. FS cheated on this one. Instead of bringing new interesting weapon, they used the old one. Genius.
Also, as others already mentioned, I just don't see it fitting for Vet and especially Zealot characters. I always saw them as rough and the ones who prefer brute power. What will be next, Psyker with heavy eviscerator? :)

[shnappy]

Zealot, and even Vet somewhat, have plenty of talents that have good synergy with a weapon like the Duelling (also can I point out that in game it is spelled with 2 "L"s, is the a British English thing idk?) Sword. Zealot likes dodging, getting crits, and hitting weak spots. It's part of why knife feels so good on Zealot.

While it certainly is fun to use and effective, it didn't really make Zealot do something Zealot didn't already do. Zealot has always been a beefy front liner who excels at taking down elites and specials while diving deep into the horde. The main thing it added to the kit over all was a more mobile option that still has great range.

[MrButtermancer]

Yeah... dueling sword was only allowed to exist because in the psyker ecosystem, a very powerful melee weapon was merely acceptable.

With psykers getting melee traits (and giving the thing to Zealot), it's gonna get the nerf bat.

[bel]

it makes sense for all the three classes its in now, as they all have NCO vibes

[bel]

Originally posted by Neomir:

one more thing, to all the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ morons applying real life 'lived experience' logic to this video game balance, can you please go play fr either enough hours to be able to show skill without saying anything or prove youve earnt at least 500dollars/whatever of tourny winnings.

The amount of testers fs has who are just pure dogwater is really embarassing for them but, as i mentioned further before, the idea of skill is being eroded (not just by the mushroom people masses, industry is supporting it too, and law...) to make them look better than they are. I frequequently feel that i am taking more heat in the game, so i turn while maintaining and literally watch my teammates wtaching me EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. my ign is neomir or xavier smithers happy to help anyone genuine but if you want to troll PLS join my games. im getting pretty good at taking on 80% of the horde while 2-3 daggerrevolvers or a psyker whove been spamming 'no' all game just wtach me then realise theyneed to perform or die.

these guys need to get out of auric and stop beign selfish intentionally joniing a difficulty theyre NOT GOOD ENOUGH for. its not a gatekeeping issue. its a sportsmanship issue. these 25 year odl kids dont have it. they have no concept of wasting other peoples time, theyre happy to spew poisonous idealogy (which im proud to fight for almost 10 years now, maybe not much longer hihi) and they do so intently, malisciously and without care. they have been primed (i mentioned talknig harddrives earlier) to download info and regurgiate it without the capacity to think, so they think nothing of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ all over any social contract or obligation, in this case wasting 3 well-meaning other peoples time, pr less, with their ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that THEY KNOW THWY CANT SURVIVE ON THE DIFF. if you are any amount of dt skill, rank 400+ maybe idk i dont do addons you should be able to start seeing it without their weapons or text/speech. you'll see how they mvoe. it cant be faked.

its just a video game chill dude

[DuneLoon]

i agree

[Puppet Pal Clem]

I'd rather dueling sword available on veteran and zealot too. Psyker already has exclusive weapons such as staff. If anything fatshark should think about adding classes instead of restricting weapons.

[varicose 'vascular' vinny]

Dueling sword should absolutely be on veteran. I've seen more than a few people going for that officer larp and it's absolutely perfect for that.

Why its on the Fanatic is anyone's guess. They're about as far from finesse as it gets.

[These stairs go up!]

You receive saber as a psyker unique.

I receive enough ogryn weapons to give us as many options as the other classes.

[Nobody watches your TTV]

No, fatshark wants to sell more dueling sword skins.

[Nobody watches your TTV]

Originally posted by varicose 'vascular' vinny:

Dueling sword should absolutely be on veteran. I've seen more than a few people going for that officer larp and it's absolutely perfect for that.

Why its on the Fanatic is anyone's guess. They're about as far from finesse as it gets.

religiously fanatic, tactically finesse.

[Artan]

Originally posted by MINUS:

Zealot makes very good use of Dueling Swords, so no thanks.

I cannot lie. I am a player who has coming up 700 hours in game with all 4 classes at lvl 30 and all played regularly at end game. My Psyker has been a Gun Psyker with a Dueling sword 4 and I have loved it. However since the latest patch making all weapons available on all classes apart from Staves and Ogryn's I ave been playing my Zealot as Dueling Sword instead and I absolutely love it! I change between a Zarona or a Vraks IAG that used to be a Columnus IAG and both are incredible.

I had been used to pulling off clutch saves before bu since I have been playing this I am almost unstoppable and have saved several runs that would have been impossible as my team mates might as well have not existed and were worse than bots! It feels like the update has brought many players back who haven't played in a long time and as such are really bad and need to e HARD carried. Not a problem for my new Deuling Sword Zealot!

I am using +10% Melee weak spot damage and +10% Melee critical hit damage as perks and Rampage and Shred as Blessings on Blazing Piety. Rampage is incredible for horde clearing & I have thought about swapping out Shred for Agile or Riposte but I find that Shred is incredible with BP node Fury Rising if your BP stacks have fallen off in getting them back up fast. This build and weapon allows for almost constant up-time on invocation of death and this massively reduces the long cool-down on Chorus (60 seconds base CD) and allows it to be used a LOT. Rampage is incredible for horde clearing.

This massively reduced CD and 3x Stun grenades makes pulling of saves easy and something that can be done time and time again.

These are the 2 version I am playing atm Zarona and IAG:

Zarona:
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d23dad7-467e-4186-a10f-0e2d1c2acba5/artan-zealot-zarona

IAG
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d23dc42-11a9-4f5e-ba84-475df1192247/artan-zealot-iag

EDIT - I just realised i accidentally selected +25% carapace damageon the IAG in the build editor when I do not use this and instead it should have been +25% Unyielding damage.

[Haggis]

The main thing I think is bad about the Zealot having access to the Duelling Sword, is that few people have realised how flipping amazing the Crucis Thunder Hammer is now as they are all playing that instead. It deals with hordes just fine with heavy attacks, light attacks demolish anything not armoured, powered attacks with thrust 1 shot Crushers and Maulers on Damnation.

From what I'm seeing on the scoreboard, it is able to keep up with the other powerful weapons on damage and kills just fine. Definitely more than just viable now, its very much in the strong category, and possibly even one of if not the best, as alongside its all the other advantages it can melt bosses in a way no other weapon can.

[csb]

I agree please give Thunder Hammer to Psykers.

[Replicant Six]

I want all weapons to be usable by everyone, excluding Ogryn stuff of course.