250O kills with marksmans focus penance help.

[Silverheart]

Hey, noticed that this penance is horrible because the capstone is bad and the recon lasgun can't kill anything. Any advice on getting through it as quickly as possible so I never have to use either of these again?

[Commisar Jon Fuklaw]

>recon lasgun can't kill anything
Skill issue.
>Marksman focus is bad
Skill issue.

lol
lmao, even

[Mini]

Yeah it's Veterans worst keystone by quite a bit. For the few who like the rapid fire weapons it's nice, but if you're used to running Revolver, Plasma, or Boltor this one is gonna suck.

I did it with the Braced Autogun and the skill that gives focus stacks when crouching. Good luck :/

[Unpure]

Originally posted by Mini:

the skill that gives focus stacks when crouching. Good luck :/

Same, though I used Recon Lasgun
And I just stayed crouched as much as possible.
You can movie pretty effectively while crouched in combat if you use the dodge slide.

After a while, it was fun to see how much of the fights I could do while not standing up.

[Silverheart]

Originally posted by Mini:

Yeah it's Veterans worst keystone by quite a bit. For the few who like the rapid fire weapons it's nice, but if you're used to running Revolver, Plasma, or Boltor this one is gonna suck.

I did it with the Braced Autogun and the skill that gives focus stacks when crouching. Good luck :/

I just did the 250 crit weak spot kills with weapon specialist or whatever it's called, with duelling sword and plasma gun. It was actually so consistently effective that it changed my mind on veteran having no worthwhile capstones. So to go from that to this is neck breaking whiplash. Was getting like 15-20 towards that with every match, so far I've gotten the same number per match towards this - with a 10x requirement. ☠☠☠

Picked up the one that gives/preserves stacks so I can at least hopefully just stand still and plink things, might swap to an autogun or something because I found the lasgun has enough spread even when aimed to not consistently hit heads past close range, where I really don't want a no damage no stagger gun out.

[KTVindicare]

Originally posted by Silverheart:

Hey, noticed that this penance is horrible because the capstone is bad and the recon lasgun can't kill anything. Any advice on getting through it as quickly as possible so I never have to use either of these again?

Don't use the Recon Lasgun with Marksman Focus. The best thing about the Recon Lasgun is how accurate it is when you're moving. With Marksman Focus the entire point is to stand still and not move.

You want to use a Headhunter Autogun (Vigilant Autogun) or an Infantry Lasgun with Marksman Focus. To easily farm the kills use it with Executioner's Stance during a shootout with a large number of enemy shooters. One shot the shooters with headshots. Repeat over and over again until achievement is completed.

[Zsrai]

You don't HAVE to crouch, that sub-node also works if you stand still... but yeah that also sucks. Don't forget the Vet "class unique" that lets you peek out from cover when you ADS, too.

I did this pretty recently just with a Recon Lasgun build (they are really good, but you have to build properly). Some people say the non-crab node is better, that gives more stacks, but I had terribly luck with that one. I had much better luck with the crab node, waddling around and shooting a bunch. Was pretty easily getting 250-400 kills towards the penance each game once I made that change.

[Zsrai]

Originally posted by KTVindicare:

Originally posted by Silverheart:

Hey, noticed that this penance is horrible because the capstone is bad and the recon lasgun can't kill anything. Any advice on getting through it as quickly as possible so I never have to use either of these again?

Don't use the Recon Lasgun with Marksman Focus. I don't know what possessed you into thinking it was a good gun for the capstone, but it clearly indicates a serious misunderstanding of why that capstone is good.

The penance only needs kills at 10+ stacks, not weakshot kills. It's super easy to waddle around a little and just unload a Recon Lasgun with the ammo economy it has when properly talented to rack up a couple hundred kills per match.

EDIT: You can also get those kills with melee weapons, they don't even have to be ranged kills.

[Silverheart]

Friend just told me it was good for the grind since you, supposedly, spray into a horde and get a bunch of headshot kills to rack up the stacks instantly. Definitely wasn't seeming to be the case in my time, mostly seemed to hit the shoulders or something, on top of taking forever to kill any elites or specialists. If you have any recommendations for which weapon I should use, I'll give it a shot.

[Zsrai]

Originally posted by Silverheart:

Friend just told me it was good for the grind since you, supposedly, spray into a horde and get a bunch of headshot kills to rack up the stacks instantly. Definitely wasn't seeming to be the case in my time, mostly seemed to hit the shoulders or something, on top of taking forever to kill any elites or specialists. If you have any recommendations for which weapon I should use, I'll give it a shot.

Yeah Recon Las is bad for headshots but it's great for farming the kills once you waddle your way to 10 stacks from Camouflage.

[KTVindicare]

Originally posted by Zsrai:

Originally posted by KTVindicare:

Don't use the Recon Lasgun with Marksman Focus. I don't know what possessed you into thinking it was a good gun for the capstone, but it clearly indicates a serious misunderstanding of why that capstone is good.

The penance only needs kills at 10+ stacks, not weakshot kills. It's super easy to waddle around a little and just unload a Recon Lasgun with the ammo economy it has when properly talented to rack up a couple hundred kills per match.

EDIT: You can also get those kills with melee weapons, they don't even have to be ranged kills.

You're getting ZERO value out of the capstone if you try and farm the kills this way. No wonder people think it sucks if this is how they are using it.

If you aren't aiming for headshots, there's zero point in using the capstone. You're better off using Weapon's Specialist for the Recon Lasgun because of the Brittleness stacks anyway.

[Wolfgang Ebanaryil]

- in settings change crouching from hold to switch
- take skill that gives focus stacks when crouching
- take power sword
- crouch to have max stack and not loosing them and slice heretics with sword (it counts)
- you can still use dashes
- profit

[Silverheart]

Originally posted by KTVindicare:

You're getting ZERO value out of the capstone if you try and farm the kills this way. No wonder people think it sucks if this is how they are using it.

If you aren't aiming for headshots, there's zero point in using the capstone. You're better off using Weapon's Specialist for the Recon Lasgun because of the Brittleness stacks anyway.

I am grinding a penance. I am asking for advice on how to grind the penance as quickly as possible. If mag dumping into walker center of mass while crouched does that, then it's good advice. Weapon Specialist isn't Marksman's Focus, so telling me that it's a better pick for mag dumping hordes isn't useful, because I can't get my Marksman's Focus penance without having Marksman's Focus.

I hope that clears up why Zsrai has been extremely informative to what I'm trying to accomplish, and you have mostly not been. If you have any ideas on how to get better kill density while using Marksman's Focus than what they've suggested, I'm welcome to hear it.

[KTVindicare]

Originally posted by Silverheart:

Originally posted by KTVindicare:

You're getting ZERO value out of the capstone if you try and farm the kills this way. No wonder people think it sucks if this is how they are using it.

If you aren't aiming for headshots, there's zero point in using the capstone. You're better off using Weapon's Specialist for the Recon Lasgun because of the Brittleness stacks anyway.

I am grinding a penance. I am asking for advice on how to grind the penance as quickly as possible. If mag dumping into walker center of mass while crouched does that, then it's good advice. Weapon Specialist isn't Marksman's Focus, so telling me that it's a better pick for mag dumping hordes isn't useful, because I can't get my Marksman's Focus penance without having Marksman's Focus.

I hope that clears up why Zsrai has been extremely informative to what I'm trying to accomplish, and you have mostly not been. If you have any ideas on how to get better kill density while using Marksman's Focus than what they've suggested, I'm welcome to hear it.

Just use the Capstone the way it's intended and you'll farm the kills for it without even trying. You're intentionally making the grind worse for yourself by choosing this method because you're intentionally building yourself in a way that makes you less effective at the game just so you can maybe farm the penance faster.

This is why the penance isn't marked as a "kill X number in Y seconds" it's literally just an X number of kills. You can get them anyway you want. Doing it the way he's describing will just make sure you'll be asking your team to actually carry you through the mission the entire time you're doing it.

Just go load up a high density Malice mission and farm a horde afk in a corner with a Power Sword if you want to farm the kills this way. That's the easiest and most brainless way to do it.

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[Cipher Esteria]

Recon Lasgun
Dum Dum
Forget the other Penance Name, that stacks damage on close range kill
Wait for a horde, unload on head height.

Should take you around 10 Damnation games at max, if you struggle with armor take ...... how do you even struggle with Armor on a Veteran, you got the Duel Sword, Power Sword and the Emperor blessed Knife.