Bolt pistol and shock maul

[=M.D= Lion]

Tried both together on my veteran, I'm impressed, they are both highly effective and fun to use

I did a run through with my lasgun and chainsword first to get a proper feel and comparison before buying and upgrading one of each of the above and playing a few levels with them

I went in expecting nothing, maybe even ready to be disappointed but the opposite has proven to be the case

Bolt pistol makes short work of mutants, ragers, dogs and heavily damages chaos ogyrns

It's fast, great in close quarters or for firing around your team. Pinpoint shots are made easy

Overall a very satisfying weapon

I ran 25% damage Vs flak and maniac

Left the blessings I got, I forgot one but the other is the shooting while sprinting, which I've never used as I generally run lasguns but it came in handy a few times

The maul is an exceptional melee weapon, I was using the Indignatus variant

Very nice move set, great crowd control and good killing power. The stun special is a lot of fun, I was enjoying stunning the various threats, the changing a few bolts into their heads or just clubbing them down.

Worked particularly well with some of the perks down the lower right tree

Same traits as the bolt gun, I again only remember the shock blessing on it and forget the other

Not sure what to go for on them but since they are my first ones I don't have any other blessings to swap out right now anyway

So I got a Bronx for my ogyrn to try out next and bought a decent DB shotty to try later too

They are both really good. Not sure how they would work on the other classes but I think they would do fine, particularly the bolt pistol on zealot and the maul on the psyker

However I will say that there's no skins for them in the commissary and I couldn't help but notice the ones for sale in the shop, tsk tsk tsk. It would be nice to have had the red and blue skins ready to go for them at launch.

[Captain-Hugo]

I do like the Bolt Pistol, it feels like a pretty direct revolver upgrade.
Now all they need to add is Plasma Pistols for everyone else, more melee variety for zealot and Multilas for Ogryn and the arsenal will be completed

[sumdumbum]

You forgot Heavy bolter for ogryn

[AbD]

personally love the shock baton, forget the mk. the one that looks like a mace, not the spiky one. love me some hard CC

[sumdumbum]

I like the shock baton, but its charge attack feels bad to use in comparison to the powersword or chainsword. I really wish theyd make the activation animation like 75% faster. Or make it so its instant, but you can only do it every 3-5 seconds or some ♥♥♥♥.

[AbD]

Originally posted by sumdumbum:

I like the shock baton, but its charge attack feels bad to use in comparison to the powersword or chainsword. I really wish theyd make the activation animation like 75% faster. Or make it so its instant, but you can only do it every 3-5 seconds or some ♥♥♥♥.

I hate the spec att, I used it once and had a seizure, no joke, I love the weapons att pattern and all, but that shock lock is just to ZZZzzzaaappppPPPP for my poor fried brain

[AbD]

Originally posted by Anger_By_Design:

Originally posted by sumdumbum:

I like the shock baton, but its charge attack feels bad to use in comparison to the powersword or chainsword. I really wish theyd make the activation animation like 75% faster. Or make it so its instant, but you can only do it every 3-5 seconds or some ♥♥♥♥.

I hate the spec att, I used it once and had a seizure, no joke, I love the weapons att pattern and all, but that shock lock is just to ZZZzzzaaappppPPPP for my poor fried brain

sad thing is, if Dev's would just switch from blue to off blue it would not be a problem, its the white/blue that does it.

[Stormer]

Honestly I hear a lot of ♥♥♥♥ talking about the Bolt Pistol (not without fault, after playing with it for a while I can see where some of the complaints are coming from) but it's far from a bad weapon. A lot of people compare it to the Revolver, and while I do agree that it should have similar pen to keep up to par, I feel like it's a great side grade.

You trade accuracy for more ammo and a faster reload (at least faster from empty). It's harder to handle and aim yeah, but I feel like that's where the balance lies.

I feel like it could do some more damage, I notice some situations where the revolver one shots while the bolt pistol two shots (IE, I notice Poxhounds leaving quite often from one shot), but with a minor damage buff (and I mean VERY minor), I think it's perfect

[AbD]

Originally posted by Stormer:

Honestly I hear a lot of ♥♥♥♥ talking about the Bolt Pistol (not without fault, after playing with it for a while I can see where some of the complaints are coming from) but it's far from a bad weapon. A lot of people compare it to the Revolver, and while I do agree that it should have similar pen to keep up to par, I feel like it's a great side grade.

You trade accuracy for more ammo and a faster reload (at least faster from empty). It's harder to handle and aim yeah, but I feel like that's where the balance lies.

I feel like it could do some more damage, I notice some situations where the revolver one shots while the bolt pistol two shots (IE, I notice Poxhounds leaving quite often from one shot), but with a minor damage buff (and I mean VERY minor), I think it's perfect

I got a perfect revolver, and bought a bolt pistol, and got a perfect roll on my 1st buy, and I'm srry, only thing about them that's the same to me is they are pistols. one is precise aim/marksmanship and the other is a bolt pistol (and feels like it). I went into the meat grinder and shot that and things went flying (BP), folks seem to just look for reasons to not like things some times, nothing you can say or do will change them or their minds. personly, I like the revolver better, the quick fire one, but that just suits my play style better, to each their own.

[=M.D= Lion]

I have a good revolver and build to use it. It's great but it's just not my thing. Nothing beats a good kantreal for me with the vet

I prefer the chsinsword over the powersword for a vet too, though I have builds for both

I don't enjoy the revolver as much as I liked the bolt pistol. Funnily enough I'm not a big fan of the bolter either.

I do use the perk with 25% more ammo, I'm not sure if it works on the pistol?

Anyone know for sure?

All of them have their uses and can be highly effective so it really comes down to what I enjoy using

And I'm enjoying the boltpistol. Alot, Im surprised by just how much

It's the same with the maul, it's a joy to use. That's coming from a chainsword fanatic

I'm looking forward to trying out the other mark, the Agni maul, it's got more impact according to the notes

I don't think they are perfect and I can't see them becoming my go to weapons above the ones I favour but they have both been a very welcome suprise in terms of my enjoyment and they are undoubtedly killers

[Arani]

Originally posted by Stormer:

Honestly I hear a lot of ♥♥♥♥ talking about the Bolt Pistol (not without fault, after playing with it for a while I can see where some of the complaints are coming from) but it's far from a bad weapon. A lot of people compare it to the Revolver, and while I do agree that it should have similar pen to keep up to par, I feel like it's a great side grade.

Yeah I think that's the issue with most. It's not the same as revolver at all. It's more like something between a revolver and a laspistol, with a touch of bolt gun / grenade gauntlet, and a smidgeon of something unique on top.

I've had so much fun with it with Puncture & Lethal Proximity, and Puncture & Deadly Accurate with crit talent builds. Ranged bleed stacking on a weapon with accurate & fast hipshots, can 1-2 tap most things, with Deadly Accurate reaching revolver levels of crit headshot dmg, except with way bigger mag, faster reloads & more ammo than revolvers? Yeah, not a bad thing at all.

The revolver is fantastic for accurate snap shots and shines in long ranges or taking down crushers. The bolt pistol is better for just about everything else. They both have their place.

[AbD]

I know it has nothing to do w/ actual game play per sa, dmg/stats/ect. but that quick fire revolver, as stated, a quick draw snap shot, or what REALY does it for me, fanning that hammer on say a mauler or crusher and melting them in a instant

[=M.D= Lion]

Yeah but this isn't really about the other guns. I'm just talking about the bolt pistol and maul and what I thought of them after using them in game

[sumdumbum]

Like clint Eastwood in some spaghetti western. No worries mate, It gets my ♥♥♥♥ hard too.

[AbD]

Originally posted by =M.D= Lion:

Yeah but this isn't really about the other guns. I'm just talked about the bolt pistol and maul and what I thought of them after using them in game

you kinda CANNOT talk about them and not talk about the other weapons to compare them to

[AbD]

Originally posted by sumdumbum:

Like clint Eastwood in some spaghetti western. No worries mate, It gets my ♥♥♥♥ hard too.

yeah, lul. made me think of "knights of Cambodia" by Muse for some reason, great music video