How does Zealots "Swift Certainty" talent work?

[Urban Shaman]

I'm a bit confused by this one. So, unless I've got some fundamentals very wrong, dodging is the quick sideways / backwards movement the player can perform, right?

So... how exactly does "Swift Certainty" work? The description states:
"Increase sprint speed by +10%. In addition, always counts as Dodging while Sprinting, even if Stamina is depleted."

And speaking of dodges and this talent - there's also "Dance of Death" - how would that apply if you're "constantly dodging" during a sprint?
"Dance of Death" description:
"-75% Spread and -50% Recoil for 3s on successfull Dodge."

[Moffin Bovin]

If you run perpendicular to gunfire then the shots will miss you.

Swift certainty means that this will happen even if you are running with 0 stamina.

... or so i have been told. i'm not 100% sure i. i never take that ♥♥♥♥ talent.

[darth.crevette]

If you've done the advanced tutorial in the Psykanium - you also dodge ranged attacks while sprinting, but only while you have stamina. Swift Certainty removes the "while you have stamina" clause.

See also the Veteran's "duck and dive" talent (and its interaction with the Stripped Down blessing).

[Urban Shaman]

Originally posted by darth.crevette:

If you've done the advanced tutorial in the Psykanium - you also dodge ranged attacks while sprinting, but only while you have stamina. Swift Certainty removes the "while you have stamina" clause.

See also the Veteran's "duck and dive" talent (and its interaction with the Stripped Down blessing).

Hmm... then I'm wondering what I'm doing wrong - I've got that talent and I feel like I'm still taking ranged damage.

Does the running direction need to be perfectly perpendicular to the shooter?

Originally posted by Moffin Bovin:

i never take that ♥♥♥♥ talent.

It's in the higest rated zealot build on Fatshark's own Darktide community builds page... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a4fa304-0b88-4cf8-827a-d0435327a8c3/zealot-meta-no-stealth

[Moffin Bovin]

Originally posted by Urban Shaman:

Does the running direction need to be perfectly perpendicular to the shooter?

no.

[Anri of Astora]

This talent only lets you run at full speed even with 0 stamina without usual speed penalty. You won't dodge bullets, Stripped Down blessing made specially for that case.

/upd after patch 13 you should take only 50% toughness damage while sprinting with this talent. In theory, never actually tested it.

[PJ]

That talent is the reason you see psykers just tearing ass through the most ridiculous situations without a scratch. Basically make sure you're not running towards gunfire, always be at an angle (so it would theoretically hit the side of your body) and you basically turn all enemies into star wars storm troopers.

[Urban Shaman]

Originally posted by PJ:

That talent is the reason you see psykers(...)

Wait... "psykers"? Did you mean Zealots or do Psykers also get this talent?

[PJ]

Originally posted by Urban Shaman:

Originally posted by PJ:

That talent is the reason you see psykers(...)

Wait... "psykers"? Did you mean Zealots or do Psykers also get this talent?

zealots

[CobaltNinja]

If it mentions dodging specifically, and not sprinting, then it triggers only when you press the dedicated dodge button and avoid an attack. Sprinting while out of stamina dodges bullets when perpendicular with Swift Certainty allocated.

[Dragon]

Originally posted by Torch:

This talent only lets you run at full speed even with 0 stamina without usual speed penalty. You won't dodge bullets, Stripped Down blessing made specially for that case.

/upd after patch 13 you should take only 50% toughness damage while sprinting with this talent. In theory, never actually tested it.

You dodge any ranged attack while sprinting at about a 75+ degree away from the shooter. This talent allows you to do that even at 0 stamina, and increases your sprint speed (40% with stamina, 20% without stamina).

It is an incredibly powerful talent for any zealot who focuses on melee, just for the speed increase. Speed means you spend less time being shot and more time in melee with enemies. Enemy bodies block ranged attacks, and all enemies besides Gunners and Reapers will pull out their melee weapon and try to attack you instead of shooting you once you are close. This means closing the distance to a group of shooters is multiple times more efficient than even using a ranged weapon, since ammo is a resource (especially without a survivalist vet).

There is no toughness damage reduction at all.

[Sk[A]rMo'Ry2012]

It also triggers talents normally triggered by dodging. Combine this with toughness-on-dodge talent and youll see