Zealot Thunderhammer Rework

[dhkekdkdk]

Zealot is currently the weakest character.

There are no special advantages compared to other characters.

In particular, the exclusive weapon seems to need a rework. The Thunder Hammer is a very useless weapon.

So I hope it gets reworked like this

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When wearing this weapon, you cannot use a ranged weapon.
Thunderhammer involves charges 1 through 3.
It is consumed after using 3 charges.

This resource has a strategically charged alternative to the map.
Same as before when charged once
When charging twice, an additional hit motion appears (or a new motion).
When charged 3 times, it performs a leap attack and strikes the ground, causing splash damage.
(If you are concerned about bugs due to jumping, jumping in place is also good.)


Currently, it seems that Zealots need to be reorganized. What Zealots can do, other jobs are much better at. Zealots need their own unique color

[Forblaze]

The zealot is definitely not the weakest character, although I would agree the thunder hammer is relatively weak and too reliant on specific blessings. I don't think it needs more than just a buff to the base damage.

[Hexagoros]

The Zealot is stupid powerful right now.

The Thunder Hammer, however, is pretty garbage, and just needs some proper buffs.

[Selunevis]

Like Forblaze said be4, the hammers DO need a rework, but saying that others can do what a zealot can is totally bs. And be4 you play the "it´s your oppinion" card, remember that most posts in the forum agree in the zealot being both good and fun.

[dhkekdkdk]

Okay, I was careless

[xDaunt]

The thunderhammer sucks, but the zealot isn't weak at all. I can get away with stuff with my martyr zealot that I can't do with the other classes. The ONLY problem that zealot has is a lack of decent options for killing heavily armored targets. And what I mean by a "decent options" are weapons that can do more than just kill armored targets. This brings us back to the thunderhammer. The new chainaxe and the new eviscerator are both very good, but they are both too slow for my taste. Additionally, the new chainaxe doesn't have access to the shred blessing, which is best in slot for most zealot builds.

[40oz to Freedom]

Thunderhammer is for hard targets like monstrosities, crushers, maulers, bulwarks, it's not meant to be a horde clear weapon.

You need to pair it with something else that will do that job.

Personally I wish I could use a thunderhammer in my ranged weapon slot and a faster horde clear heavy sword as my main melee.

[BigJ]

I can 1 shot bosses, I am the tankiest of the non-ogryns, I have the best possible damage via martyrdom, most mobile on knife, best stealth, but still not enough to appease the criers.

[BigJ]

Originally posted by xDaunt:

The thunderhammer sucks, but the zealot isn't weak at all. I can get away with stuff with my martyr zealot that I can't do with the other classes. The ONLY problem that zealot has is a lack of decent options for killing heavily armored targets. And what I mean by a "decent options" are weapons that can do more than just kill armored targets. This brings us back to the thunderhammer. The new chainaxe and the new eviscerator are both very good, but they are both too slow for my taste. Additionally, the new chainaxe doesn't have access to the shred blessing, which is best in slot for most zealot builds.

Explain why the thunderhammer sucks, dealing 1/3 of a boss hp is bad now?

[ElviraDemonQueen]

i sorry but i disagree with everything as the Crucis MK 2 thunder hammer is amazing for sure its charge attack with the hammer slapping bosses and armor targets like its nofing and its good hord control too

if you all think its bad well then you just suck at useing it right

ow PS i can use range weapons i use brace gun with hammer and it works fine

[Licher.Rus]

Originally posted by dhkekdkdk:

Zealot is currently the weakest character.

One can no read further

[Fraktal]

They even buffed the other hammer

[xDaunt]

Originally posted by BigJ:

Originally posted by xDaunt:

The thunderhammer sucks, but the zealot isn't weak at all. I can get away with stuff with my martyr zealot that I can't do with the other classes. The ONLY problem that zealot has is a lack of decent options for killing heavily armored targets. And what I mean by a "decent options" are weapons that can do more than just kill armored targets. This brings us back to the thunderhammer. The new chainaxe and the new eviscerator are both very good, but they are both too slow for my taste. Additionally, the new chainaxe doesn't have access to the shred blessing, which is best in slot for most zealot builds.

Explain why the thunderhammer sucks, dealing 1/3 of a boss hp is bad now?

Because the only thing that the thunderhammer is particularly good at is killing bosses, and killing bosses isn't a particularly valuable specialization on auric. There are tons of other weapons that can do that job adequately. Furthermore, once you take a thunderhammer, then you have to look at the flamer for taking care of horde clearing, which then gimps your ability to deal with long range threats. Lastly, the thunderhammer does not synergize well with crit builds at all. It is slow and lacks the shred blessing. This automatically makes it a subpar weapon for zealot's strongest builds. The amount of compromising that you have to do if you take the thunderhammer is borderline crippling.

[S.P.A.S Mλdness]

Originally posted by dhkekdkdk:

Zealot is currently the weakest character.

The Thunder Hammer is a very useless weapon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwSts2s4ba4

It swipes hordes, one-shot every single elite and special, including crusher, and is THE most efficient melee weapon agains bosses.

I'm a zealot main and it's literally been my favorite melee weapon since launch (though chain weapons are finally getting some love)

My main build is cruxis hammer, flamer to better deal with hordes and throwing knives for snipers and heavy gunners. You can deal with every single threat.

[BigJ]

Originally posted by xDaunt:

Originally posted by BigJ:

Explain why the thunderhammer sucks, dealing 1/3 of a boss hp is bad now?

Because the only thing that the thunderhammer is particularly good at is killing bosses, and killing bosses isn't a particularly valuable specialization on auric. There are tons of other weapons that can do that job adequately. Furthermore, once you take a thunderhammer, then you have to look at the flamer for taking care of horde clearing, which then gimps your ability to deal with long range threats. Lastly, the thunderhammer does not synergize well with crit builds at all. It is slow and lacks the shred blessing. This automatically makes it a subpar weapon for zealot's strongest builds. The amount of compromising that you have to do if you take the thunderhammer is borderline crippling.

It is the only wepaon that 2 shots DH currently as well as either of the twins, you take hh for special deal and ironhelm for hordes, it is passable as old chaxe.

Don-t need crits when movement exists either...

[Hexagoros]

Originally posted by BigJ:

Originally posted by xDaunt:

The thunderhammer sucks, but the zealot isn't weak at all. I can get away with stuff with my martyr zealot that I can't do with the other classes. The ONLY problem that zealot has is a lack of decent options for killing heavily armored targets. And what I mean by a "decent options" are weapons that can do more than just kill armored targets. This brings us back to the thunderhammer. The new chainaxe and the new eviscerator are both very good, but they are both too slow for my taste. Additionally, the new chainaxe doesn't have access to the shred blessing, which is best in slot for most zealot builds.

Explain why the thunderhammer sucks, dealing 1/3 of a boss hp is bad now?

The issue is the team doesn't need the Zealot 1-5 shotting the boss.

The Thunder Hammer is garbage against "everything" besides a boss. I'd rather the Zealot took a weapon that can deal with the other 99% of the map, rather than taking a weapon that will annihilate the boss at the cost of the being subpar on the rest of the map.

Why? Because most teams go down to those packs of ragers, or by getting overwhelmed by a swarm coming in around bulwarks and maulers. Not bosses.