RIP Surge staff

[Abyss]

Fixed issue where the Nomanus Mk VI Surge Force Staff received the ‘Smite’ Bonuses from ‘Empowered Psionics’.

Its over bois. Back to your voidstrikes.

JK I been using surge with warp charges this whole time.

[luZk]

I will still be using surge, as I did before they bug.

[Mr.Four]

Yup, same here. Surge with warp charges but also shriek, perilous combustion and wildfire keeping a steady burn to build charges with. Just constantly shouting to quell, burning, hitting hard with surge on elites and specials. Swapping to melee for hordes.

[Meowser has not]

purgatus for days

[Xeonzs]

I played OP surge just to enjoy it till they fixed it, just like I abused OP smite before they fixed that, so much fun.

[Neltera]

never used the bug with empowered psyonics and smite, but did they also nerf surge in addition to fixing the bug? i cant stagger maulers and crushers anymore and specialists also take more to kill.

[Le Hatch]

Here I am waiting for the inevitable flood of copium threads from Psykers saying that the staff is useless now and/or FS might have shadow nerfed it after they were using EP claiming they were using warp charges instead.

[McDinglefart]

Originally posted by Le Hatch:

Here I am waiting for the inevitable flood of copium threads from Psykers saying that the staff is useless now and/or FS might have shadow nerfed it after they were using EP claiming they were using warp charges instead.

It is useless. No long range, poorer stagger, uses x2 more peril, does x2 less damage compared to void staff. What's the point using it.

[Neltera]

dont know what copium is but if i cant handle maulers or crushers with surge anymore i personally do not see a reason to play it. back to stub revolver again i ugess :P i dont care to use ammo. its easier to manage then perril and a better investment to the effect i get.

- nevermind just seems to be a psykarium thing with the surge stagger on maulers and crushers.

[Zef]

Originally posted by Kakas69:

Originally posted by Le Hatch:

Here I am waiting for the inevitable flood of copium threads from Psykers saying that the staff is useless now and/or FS might have shadow nerfed it after they were using EP claiming they were using warp charges instead.

It is useless. No long range, poorer stagger, uses x2 more peril, does x2 less damage compared to void staff. What's the point using it.

Everything perfectly balanced again.

[CommanderCharli]

Originally posted by Neltera:

never used the bug with empowered psyonics and smite, but did they also nerf surge in addition to fixing the bug? i cant stagger maulers and crushers anymore and specialists also take more to kill.

I felt this too. I can's stagger flak-armoured mobs now and my surge staff feels weaker.

[Neltera]

Originally posted by CommanderCharli:

Originally posted by Neltera:

never used the bug with empowered psyonics and smite, but did they also nerf surge in addition to fixing the bug? i cant stagger maulers and crushers anymore and specialists also take more to kill.

I felt this too. I can's stagger flak-armoured mobs now and my surge staff feels weaker.:sfsad:

have not fought crushers in missions one on one yet after patch, but i remember crusher packs of 5+ and maulers up to 20... this would be so much fun not able to stop at least some of them, especially with the limited dodges now.

[Quxudais]

A needed fix we definitely knew was coming, though I will say I still had more fun running any class with even a group full of broken surge users than I do with a single assail spammer on the team.

[Neltera]

Originally posted by Quxudais:

A needed fix we definitely knew was coming, though I will say I still had more fun running any class with even a group full of broken surge users than I do with a single assail spammer on the team.

the smite/empowered psionics was a bug, never used it and needed fixing, but veterans got a nice weapon with the plasma gun that takes into account that they can blow themselves up if they mess up the management and psykers seemingly just get their risk ignored. we blow up with almost everything we do if we mess up and still get dmg nerfes instead of actual balancing.

[Ethical Lune]

Glad the bug was fixed but it is sorta kinda dookie, not much point in using it when in terms of staffs(staves?) both voidstrike and trauma can deal more damage and inflict more CC.

[Neltera]

surge is still usable, but its on the edge. played a few missions its again harder to get the same benefit. trappers do not die securely with one full charge and i need up to 5 charge attacks for a scab rager if i am not lucky. i have 25% dmg to carapace and i need up to 6 charged shots for a mauler - wtf. you dont always crit when you need to even with the warp nexus blessing. void strike before the damage nerf was at a better spot because it has a long charge time and gave you massive damage for it. but they nerfed that damage now it is too unreliable for me. rather use stub revolver instead. whats the point to seomtimes do 3k dmg when i cant rely on it. rather do at least 1200dmg per bullet with my stub revolver, its faster costs no peril and reliable.

if i carry the risk of killing myself if i missmanage then i have to go with most reliable options. void strike would be usable if it gave you plasma gun levels of damage and charged a bit faster. it should practically be a plasmagun but as a psykerstaff.

according to what i am shown i simply do not have any trust in the competence of fatshark. you have to play your game proficiently to understand the intricacies of relation between gameplay and numbers, challenges and requirements. just reading some statistics about players in your game tells you little if you have insufficient knowledge about what it really means.