I hate Zealots that it all

[Slicky Cheese]

I main veteran

[insufferable-child]

peace and love on planet atoma

[potato]

ogryns are the real enemy of veteran-kind

[boss_429s]

I hate globe icon...

[Chadwick Strongpants]

I hate Psykers because they legit all seem to be running the same metasheep build. And half of them still keep exploding on Heresy.

[Arslan]

Zealot runs fast and easily breaks away from the group, forgetting that this is a team game. This leads to sad consequences.

[ElviraDemonQueen]

i play all classes but you know what i hate more ? VETRANS that are to Cocky and think they are better when they are not

Publicado originalmente por Arslan:

Zealot runs fast and easily breaks away from the group, forgetting that this is a team game. This leads to sad consequences.

not all zealots i seen alot of vetrans or even PSYKERS with knifes trying to run a head of there team so its not just zealots

[Slithy]

I feel ya. I prefer Veteran over Psyker and Zealot these days. Zealot just feels so underwhelming now and Psyker feels forced down certain paths with no real variety.

Publicado originalmente por Copper Knight:

I hate Psykers because they legit all seem to be running the same metasheep build. And half of them still keep exploding on Heresy.

Disregarding the exploders here, since they're just bad, but defending the "metasheep" builds, the Psyker really is kind of forced right now.

Void Staff is decent but requires so much more work now to get the same damage as a Veteran or even a Zealot which can one or two tap a Crusher while you're still throwing orbs. Flamethrower staff is woefully underpowered. Trauma staff is LOL. Surge staff is good because of a bug and without a buff after the bug is fixed most will return to void because while not as good as it used to be, it's better than nothing.

With every other part of a Psyker build you're super constricted. Smite is a feather duster that tickles, brain burst is a joke because of how slow it is (by the time you get it off revolver or las rifle go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT) and Assail is weaker but still clears waves (clears waves the way Smite should).

Shriek is the LOL cow of the selection, venting helps nobody by bad Psykers who suck a peril management and the shield is arguably one of the best additions to Psyker overall for the Psyker and the team.

So where does that leave the Psyker? 2 staff options (possibly 1 option if the bug is fixed with no other buffs), Assail and Shield. That's it. It's OP and obnoxious right now with the bug, but Psyker mains really have no wiggle room right now versus something like say the Veteran where you can make almost everything work with an exhaustive arsenal of viable weapons.

*Edit: Fixed a typo.

[Dhafeuwst]

You're jealous is all. No clown points for you.

[Chadwick Strongpants]

Publicado originalmente por Slithy:

Publicado originalmente por Copper Knight:

I hate Psykers because they legit all seem to be running the same metasheep build. And half of them still keep exploding on Heresy.

Disregarding the exploders here, since they're just bad, but defending the "metasheep" builds, the Psyker really is kind of forced right now.

Void Staff is decent but requires so much more work now to get the same damage as a Veteran or even a Zealot which can one or two tap a Crusher while you're still throwing orbs. Flamethrower staff is woefully underpowered. Trauma staff is LOL. Surge staff is good because of a bug and without a buff after the bug is fixed most will return to void because while not as good as it used to be, it's better than nothing.

With every other part of a Psyker build you're super constricted. Smite is a feather duster that tickles, brain burst is a joke because of how slow it is (by the time you get it off revolver or las rifle go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT) and Assail is weaker but still clears waves (clears waves the way Smite should).

Shriek is the LOL cow of the selection, venting helps nobody by bad Psykers who suck a peril management and the shield is arguably one of the best additions to Psyker overall for the Psyker and the team.

So where does that leave the Psyker? 2 staff options (possibly 1 option if the bug is fixed with no other buffs), Assail and Shield. That's it. It's OP and obnoxious right now with the bug, but Psyker mains really have no wiggle room right now versus something like say the Veteran where you can make almost everything work with an exhausting arsenal of viable weapons.

You're entitled to your own opinion of course, but I have to disagree with you. I run a Purgatus / Venting Shriek / Brain Burst setup myself and am doing just fine on Damnation and Auric Heresy. Not to be a contrarian, but because that's how I've always run Psyker and it's how I feel the most comfortable playing him. It's actually really good for horde killing and even control because the flames stagger everything, and Brain Burst remains a versatile tool. I definetly feel like I'm pulling more weight compared to half of the chucklehead Psykers I usually get.

Obviously that's just me - I suppose it helps that I've played Psyker since release. I will say that I've never found a good use for Trauma though.

[Calv]

I hate lamp

[Slithy]

Publicado originalmente por Copper Knight:

Obviously that's just me - I suppose it helps that I've played Psyker since release. I will say that I've never found a good use for Trauma though.

Sounds interesting. I'll give it a shot myself and see how it works out for me, but from what I see from others and my own experiences with it, it has felt underperforming in general. But hey, always willing to try something new. Anything for some viable variety and since it's working for you on the same difficulties I play it's definitely worth a try.

[Shaihulud]

Publicado originalmente por Copper Knight:

I hate Psykers because they legit all seem to be running the same metasheep build. And half of them still keep exploding on Heresy.

for what its worth i have not changed my build at all. I still am rocking BB and all the fire. I call it my Burny Sanders build.

[Chadwick Strongpants]

Publicado originalmente por Slithy:

Publicado originalmente por Copper Knight:

Obviously that's just me - I suppose it helps that I've played Psyker since release. I will say that I've never found a good use for Trauma though.

Sounds interesting. I'll give it a shot myself and see how it works out for me, but from what I see from others and my own experiences with it, it has felt underperforming in general. But hey, always willing to try something new. Anything for some viable variety and since it's working for you on the same difficulties I play it's definitely worth a try.

I think you misunderstood. I'm saying that I have good results with Purgatus, not so much with Trauma. Though I'm sure there are Psykers who make it work well. :)

[boss_429s]

Publicado originalmente por Slithy:

I feel ya. I prefer Veteran over Psyker and Zealot these days. Zealot just feels so underwhelming now and Psyker feels forced down certain paths with no real variety.

I'm at the same point. I hardly play my vet anymore because its just too powerful. Sometimes I'll bring it into the topkek auric blitz maelstrom (83k one). I haven't touched my psyker since September because they're just ridiculous.

[Bomoo]

Okay thanks for letting us know.