I don't want to play with Xbox players. Add DO NOT PLAY WITH XBOX PLAYERS option.

[Chairman Meow]

They got the option to not play with PC players, why do PC players have no choice in playing with them? It's intentional. It slows progression of PC players to a crawl and forces us to carry people who drop ammo on elevators and can't shoot a dog off of you at point blank to save their lives. Fat Shark took advantage of PC gamers and made us beta test it just to award them with more premium currency, now we have to carry them in every mission.

[40oz to Freedom]

Yeah I never really understood why consoles couldn't just support a keyboard and mouse option, especially XBox, and especially if they wanted to add crossplay at some point.

But I'm also sure we're playing with PC players using steam deck or playing with a controller as well.

[Zsrai]

Originally posted by 40oz to Freedom:

Yeah I never really understood why consoles couldn't just support a keyboard and mouse option, especially XBox, and especially if they wanted to add crossplay at some point.

But I'm also sure we're playing with PC players using steam deck or playing with a controller as well.

I was playing this on my Deck on day 1, and I know I wasn't the only one. OP sounds like a salty ♥♥♥♥♥ that can't block push a hound before it knocks them over more than someone who has "to carry them in every mission".

[assarhadon]

Originally posted by Zsrai:

Originally posted by 40oz to Freedom:

Yeah I never really understood why consoles couldn't just support a keyboard and mouse option, especially XBox, and especially if they wanted to add crossplay at some point.

But I'm also sure we're playing with PC players using steam deck or playing with a controller as well.

I was playing this on my Deck on day 1, and I know I wasn't the only one. OP sounds like a salty ♥♥♥♥♥ that can't block push a hound before it knocks them over more than someone who has "to carry them in every mission".

Looks like you was carried too

[Captain Worthy]

Originally posted by 40oz to Freedom:

Yeah I never really understood why consoles couldn't just support a keyboard and mouse option, especially XBox, and especially if they wanted to add crossplay at some point.

But I'm also sure we're playing with PC players using steam deck or playing with a controller as well.

Consoles do support the mouse & keyboard option, at least the Xbox does. Its ports are regular USB ports.

The Xbox game has to have support for keyboard & mouse though.

Originally posted by Chairman Meow:

They got the option to not play with PC players, why do PC players have no choice in playing with them? It's intentional. It slows progression of PC players to a crawl and forces us to carry people who drop ammo on elevators and can't shoot a dog off of you at point blank to save their lives. Fat Shark took advantage of PC gamers and made us beta test it just to award them with more premium currency, now we have to carry them in every mission.

It was Microsoft that gave its platforms the option to switch crossplay off, Steam does not have this same setting. Fatshark has nothing to do with this feature being on the MS store & Xbox platforms.

It would definititely be nice if Steam developed this feature too, because right now every dev studio has to go out of their way to develop this feature themselves if they want to have this option in the Steam version of their game.

[Madjar]

I keep getting recommended talking clips for darktide, seeing how the console players play from their POV is painful, 6 bolter shots to kill like 4 trash (melee) mobs, walking into a horde using only the single target attacks of their weapons without dodging/blocking.

[Prince Ian]

I think this whole thing is a myth. I play on xbox and do just fine. Now let me tell you, last night i had a really good damnation run, you know at the lobby where everyone says GG. I looked down and all of us had the xbox logo. There are bad players everywhere but I think xbox players are being scapegoated.

[Bomoo]

Originally posted by Chairman Meow:

They got the option to not play with PC players, why do PC players have no choice in playing with them? It's intentional. It slows progression of PC players to a crawl and forces us to carry people who drop ammo on elevators and can't shoot a dog off of you at point blank to save their lives. Fat Shark took advantage of PC gamers and made us beta test it just to award them with more premium currency, now we have to carry them in every mission.

Post it on their official forum, they don't read this one.

[Laughing Man]

You get generally bad, selfish, clueless players on *all* platforms. It's not exclusively a console thing.

[Donut Steel]

Originally posted by 40oz to Freedom:

Yeah I never really understood why consoles couldn't just support a keyboard and mouse option, especially XBox, and especially if they wanted to add crossplay at some point.

But I'm also sure we're playing with PC players using steam deck or playing with a controller as well.

Then there wouldn't be any excuses. I play Destiny 2, only because a friend does and only since cross-play was introduced. He swears the difference between me and him is down to mouse and keyboard against his Xbox controller.

The thing is, half the time I'm playing through my TV, with my controller, so it feels like good old fashioned co-op play. We're just at different addresses. There is something about controllers though that changes how a person plays.

When Halo came out twenty years ago, I couldn't understand the fuss: it seemed like mostly a downgrade on controller-focused, console-based shooters that had come before, rather than 'Combat Evolved'. It was worse than Turok, worse than GoldenEye, and even worse than Doom 64.

One of the weird things is 'move to aim', where the aim-point is instinctively pre-positioned at enemy head-height, and then the player just strafes into it and times their shots. The stick that's used for look-aim is almost never used for aiming, and is why auto-aim ADS is such a common thing.

Controllers are more comfy, but game designers haven't bothered finding any interesting ways to make them work for shooters other than crutches and leaving it to marketing to cover up how embarrassing it really is.

[Madjar]

Originally posted by Laughing Man:

You get generally bad, selfish, clueless players on *all* platforms. It's not exclusively a console thing.

It's not, but there are mountains more on console.
And this is coming from someone who was on console for many years, it's also made worse by gamepass for these kinds of games

[Laughing Man]

Changed my mind. In 1 week I've been called more racial slurs and informed of the imminent rape of my close family, than in the whole of 27 years of PC gaming. Some people are just simply disgusting human beings.

[Sofia]

Originally posted by Laughing Man:

You get generally bad, selfish, clueless players on *all* platforms. It's not exclusively a console thing.

PC players use controllers too.

Especially Steam Deck players.

Consoles support mouse & keyboard, too, so you can't actually know.

You're just salty.

[Trunks]

i have yet to see one tbh

[Laughing Man]

Originally posted by Sofia:

Originally posted by Laughing Man:

You get generally bad, selfish, clueless players on *all* platforms. It's not exclusively a console thing.

PC players use controllers too.

Especially Steam Deck players.

Consoles support mouse & keyboard, too, so you can't actually know.

You're just salty.

Either strawman or you hit reply on the wrong post?

[Stim Addict]

Originally posted by Sofia:

Originally posted by Laughing Man:

You get generally bad, selfish, clueless players on *all* platforms. It's not exclusively a console thing.

PC players use controllers too.

Especially Steam Deck players.

Consoles support mouse & keyboard, too, so you can't actually know.

You're just salty.

I think you are missing the point.