Warhammer 40,000: Darktide

Warhammer 40,000: Darktide

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Raab Nov 2, 2023 @ 5:17am
Best Ogryn melee weapon?
I've been running bull butcher for a long time; it's great for clearing hordes, but I'm finding it to lack killing power with specials and it's starting to feel stale.

What's your overall favorite melee weapon for Oggy, and how does it fair with clearing hordes and specials?
Originally posted by Emilia Tempest:
mk1 bully club WOULD be the best, but the recent patch screwed it up so you deal less headshot damage compared to body shot damage to dual armor enemies.
Dreg gunner? Headshot is ~325, bodyshot? 500.... bruh
Same happens to the armored horde mobs, the dreg shotgunner, and reaper

The sad thing is that the Shovel is also affected by this.. at least its less of a huge difference.

And for some god unknown reason, the relentless attacks on the bully club mk2 and mk3 do massive amount of unyielding damage (~600 body, ~800 headshot). Yet the attacks meant to kill single enemies do like, 300 at best...

Though if you play a ranged ogryn, butcher knife (mk3 knife) is the best with confident strike, your gun is for elites and bosses, while the knife is for hordes


The shield is really great too but you are very slow with it, however the tank build with it where blocking taunts enemies is great. You force shooters (but NOT gunners! nor reapers!) into melee, which can take a huge amount of stress off the team.

Still would say (once fixed) bully club mk1 ogryn could do the same job as a shield ogryn, by running into the backline and killing everything. And its more fun than just hunking down the shield and waiting. (Since ogryn got more defence throught 3 nodes, he can actually duel a deamon host with other weapons now, given they have fast enough heavy attacks, removing that niche of the shield.)
Still fun to use the shield!
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GBR Warrior Nov 2, 2023 @ 5:18am 
I'd say the Bully club mark 3. It's has great horde clear and is decent against armour. Alot of the blessings you can put on it are really strong too
newvan Nov 2, 2023 @ 5:33am 
Almost any melee weapon on og is viable for now, you just kill stuff through your buil with stacking bleed. Clubs are good, maul is good, shovel is good - just choose the best moveset for you,  spam havey atacks, stack bleed, and go to HH. The best melee weapon in the current patch is the Cleaver MK IV caus with HH it oneshot scabs and dregs with havy.
Kiekmgoan46 Nov 2, 2023 @ 5:34am 
Jup Bully 3 and bully 1 right after.
Ethical Lune Nov 2, 2023 @ 5:47am 
My vote would be for either the Slab Shield(Skullcrusher & Confident Strike) or Mk IV Cleaver(Thrust & Slaughterer), both are absolutely incredible these days.
Last edited by Ethical Lune; Nov 2, 2023 @ 5:58am
Raab Nov 2, 2023 @ 6:03am 
NICE ! I'll try the other cleaver out and the bully 3 , thx:)
Frost Spectre Nov 2, 2023 @ 6:04am 
My preference is Battle Maul and Slab Shield.
bacon Nov 2, 2023 @ 6:06am 
mk1 club
RudziG Nov 2, 2023 @ 6:35am 
butcher cleaver
TTV-LawlessHunk Nov 2, 2023 @ 6:54am 
I love using the shield, ive had people pull demon hosts, I have aggro and just sat in a corner whilst i use its entrench to just tank it whilst team deals with it
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Emilia Tempest Nov 2, 2023 @ 7:02am 
mk1 bully club WOULD be the best, but the recent patch screwed it up so you deal less headshot damage compared to body shot damage to dual armor enemies.
Dreg gunner? Headshot is ~325, bodyshot? 500.... bruh
Same happens to the armored horde mobs, the dreg shotgunner, and reaper

The sad thing is that the Shovel is also affected by this.. at least its less of a huge difference.

And for some god unknown reason, the relentless attacks on the bully club mk2 and mk3 do massive amount of unyielding damage (~600 body, ~800 headshot). Yet the attacks meant to kill single enemies do like, 300 at best...

Though if you play a ranged ogryn, butcher knife (mk3 knife) is the best with confident strike, your gun is for elites and bosses, while the knife is for hordes


The shield is really great too but you are very slow with it, however the tank build with it where blocking taunts enemies is great. You force shooters (but NOT gunners! nor reapers!) into melee, which can take a huge amount of stress off the team.

Still would say (once fixed) bully club mk1 ogryn could do the same job as a shield ogryn, by running into the backline and killing everything. And its more fun than just hunking down the shield and waiting. (Since ogryn got more defence throught 3 nodes, he can actually duel a deamon host with other weapons now, given they have fast enough heavy attacks, removing that niche of the shield.)
Still fun to use the shield!
Steinar Nov 2, 2023 @ 7:49am 
The Bull Butcher is one of the best weapons for killing Specials and Hordes though.
-High Maniac dmg.
-Fast attacks that stagger and hit Specials even among other enemies.
-High mobility allowing you to dodge Specials' attacks.
-Easy attack pattern.

However, Ogryn talents focus on improving Heavy attacks. The Bull Butcher has slow Heavies and a desire to spam Lights. Because of this, many people have transitioned over to the Krourk Mk 4 which has fast Heavies and retains the strengths of the Bull Butcher (except you need to learn attack patterns for both Lights and Heavies and combinations thereof).

Out of curiosity, which type of Ogryn are you playing? Skullcrusher, Bullgryn, Gun Lugger?
Nahmy Nov 2, 2023 @ 7:54am 
Rippers are my favorite melee weapons right now. I enjoy the Cleavers otherwise for horde clear and movement.
Raab Nov 2, 2023 @ 8:02am 
Originally posted by Steinar:
The Bull Butcher is one of the best weapons for killing Specials and Hordes though.
-High Maniac dmg.
-Fast attacks that stagger and hit Specials even among other enemies.
-High mobility allowing you to dodge Specials' attacks.
-Easy attack pattern.

However, Ogryn talents focus on improving Heavy attacks. The Bull Butcher has slow Heavies and a desire to spam Lights. Because of this, many people have transitioned over to the Krourk Mk 4 which has fast Heavies and retains the strengths of the Bull Butcher (except you need to learn attack patterns for both Lights and Heavies and combinations thereof).

Out of curiosity, which type of Ogryn are you playing? Skullcrusher, Bullgryn, Gun Lugger?

I'm playing bullgryn and am beating all the content, but it's just getting stale for me. It's my favorite weapon for sure on Ogryn , but sometimes switching it up reignites the classes for me. Haven't played with the other melees much since I started my Ogryn and wanted to check it all out.
Steinar Nov 2, 2023 @ 8:30am 
Originally posted by raab8:
I'm playing bullgryn and am beating all the content, but it's just getting stale for me. It's my favorite weapon for sure on Ogryn , but sometimes switching it up reignites the classes for me. Haven't played with the other melees much since I started my Ogryn and wanted to check it all out.
It's important to note that Skullcrusher improves heavy attack dmg alot, and you're not going to easily reach one-shot breakpoints as a Bullgryn.

With that said, I really recommend trying out Bully Club Mk 1 with Haymaker (and Thrust). Haymaker is much easier to stack and maintain now, so you're easily going to have a permanent 20% chance to one-shot human sized enemies on each heavy attack (this is basically all three Clubs' way to horde clear / AoE). Pair this with +25% dmg to Maniac/Flak for better Special/Elite clear, and suddenly you have a weapon with lots of stagger that's great against Carapace/Unyielding, can one-shot, and can even horde clear enough to keep you safe.

And again, the Krourk Mk 4 is basically the new and advanced Bull Butcher. Despite being the same weapon type (Cleaver) it feels different enough imo due to using heavy attacks that apply bleeds, regain lots of toughness, grant dmg reduction, and work with Thrust. Even just having strikedowns changes things up.
Raab Nov 2, 2023 @ 9:10am 
Originally posted by Steinar:
Originally posted by raab8:
I'm playing bullgryn and am beating all the content, but it's just getting stale for me. It's my favorite weapon for sure on Ogryn , but sometimes switching it up reignites the classes for me. Haven't played with the other melees much since I started my Ogryn and wanted to check it all out.
It's important to note that Skullcrusher improves heavy attack dmg alot, and you're not going to easily reach one-shot breakpoints as a Bullgryn.

With that said, I really recommend trying out Bully Club Mk 1 with Haymaker (and Thrust). Haymaker is much easier to stack and maintain now, so you're easily going to have a permanent 20% chance to one-shot human sized enemies on each heavy attack (this is basically all three Clubs' way to horde clear / AoE). Pair this with +25% dmg to Maniac/Flak for better Special/Elite clear, and suddenly you have a weapon with lots of stagger that's great against Carapace/Unyielding, can one-shot, and can even horde clear enough to keep you safe.

And again, the Krourk Mk 4 is basically the new and advanced Bull Butcher. Despite being the same weapon type (Cleaver) it feels different enough imo due to using heavy attacks that apply bleeds, regain lots of toughness, grant dmg reduction, and work with Thrust. Even just having strikedowns changes things up.
Thx bro, I'll take ur advice for sure and check it out!
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