Good build for Recon lasgun?

[Scobee Doe]

This is my current talents and recon lasgun build. I'm new to the update so just curious if these are the right talents and perks etc. Also what are good curios?
https://imgur.com/a/75NpriV

[Calv]

It isn't a build I've run, so take my suggestions with a grain of a salt.

But I'd be tempted to take the Krak grenade instead for a good armoured killing option.

Would also take Deadshot (assuming it works with the Recon Lasgun) to stack the crit hit chance and take full advantage of Shock Trooper. Possibly also take the Headhunter blessing on the lasgun for the same reason.

[Orfin]

I feel like this will be a pain to play because headshot kills is the only source of toughness regen? But if you are fine with it, it's allright

[Wakipai Pero #PLAYGG]

This is what I run, consistently tops the score boards for what it's worth.

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a71ea46-1061-43c1-9fcb-7134b1f33b42/my-recon-build

[m99noble]

Build my character for me, the post. Roll with what you have and be the burden you were always meant to be.

[Imnuktam]

Cant tell by looking at pics what each ability is by memory but if you take the one that increases crit chance while aiming down sites (and drains your stamina) for sure take a curio with +3 stamina and maybe stamina regen as well as grabbing the +1 stamina in tree. That made a huge dif when I did that with my build. Also get as much crit as possible and the ability that uses no ammo on crit hits. A few nice perks for weapon to compliment that build if you can add them. This gun has 2 that work really well together in that crit build.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3055879332

[TaKo]

Originally posted by Wakipai Pero #PLAYGG:

This is what I run, consistently tops the score boards for what it's worth.

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a71ea46-1061-43c1-9fcb-7134b1f33b42/my-recon-build

weird curios

[m99noble]

Originally posted by Imnuktam:

Cant tell by looking at pics what each ability is by memory but if you take the one that increases crit chance while aiming down sites for sure take a curio with +3 stamina and maybe stamina regen as well as grabbing the +1 stamina in tree. That made a huge dif when I did that with my build. Also get as much crit as possible and the ability that uses no ammo on crit hits. A few nice perks for weapon to compliment that build if you can add them. This gun has 2 that work really well together in that crit build.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3055879332

Recon6D is faster ttk. Considerably faster.

[Imnuktam]

Originally posted by m99noble:

Originally posted by Imnuktam:

Cant tell by looking at pics what each ability is by memory but if you take the one that increases crit chance while aiming down sites for sure take a curio with +3 stamina and maybe stamina regen as well as grabbing the +1 stamina in tree. That made a huge dif when I did that with my build. Also get as much crit as possible and the ability that uses no ammo on crit hits. A few nice perks for weapon to compliment that build if you can add them. This gun has 2 that work really well together in that crit build.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3055879332

Recon6D is faster ttk. Considerably faster.

The ones that run alongside me with that in their hands while im using this would disagree ;)

I have both but I def like this one better. While it fires only half as fast, it does more damage especially to armored targets with better pen and accuracy while being more ammo efficient.

I get someone every 2-3 games who watches me get credit for 85% of the special kills asking about my build and talks about putting their recon away to try this one. I use sword for fodder but for specials, this one is the best in class imo hands down.

[TaKo]

Originally posted by Imnuktam:

The ones that run alongside me with that in their hands while im using this would disagree ;)

its half the base dmg, half the ammo cost per shot, vastly increased RoF, worse multipliers vs the varying armor types but the VId synergizes way more with things that apply debuffs on hit/crit due to shooting out more bullets and it has more chances to crit

i.e you are going to see more crits on average on the VId than with a VIIa witht he exact same crit build, which means more stacks of infernus and more stacks of brittlenes via Exploit Weakness if using that, same if using Onslaught if instead, with these last two more than compensation for the lower armor multipliers

they're basically sidegrades to each other the VId is just currently pulling ahead cause the way some talents and blessings currently work

HOWEVER

patch 14 plans to halve the max brittleness applied by exploit weakness while making it so we reach that new max in only 2 stacks(instead of 16) which may make the VIIa gain the lead for people running EW over Onslaught

[Imnuktam]

Originally posted by TaKo:

Originally posted by Imnuktam:

The ones that run alongside me with that in their hands while im using this would disagree ;)

its half the base dmg, half the ammo cost per shot, vastly increased RoF, worse multipliers vs the varying armor types but the VId synergizes way more with things that apply debuffs on hit/crit due to shooting out more bullets and it has more chances to crit

i.e you are going to see more crits on average on the VId than with a VIIa witht he exact same crit build, which means more stacks of infernus and more stacks of brittlenes via Exploit Weakness if using that, same if using Onslaught if instead, with these last two more than compensation for the lower armor multipliers

they're basically sidegrades to each other the VId is just currently pulling ahead cause the way some talents and blessings currently work

HOWEVER

patch 14 plans to halve the max brittleness applied by exploit weakness while making it so we reach that new max in only 2 stacks(instead of 16) which may make the VIIa gain the lead for people running EW over Onslaught

There is a definitely an argument for using both, if my 6d had rolled as well as my 7a I would probably use it more. Right now i only use it when we will be push running constantly and there will be little chance to stop and aim for weak spots from ranged. I like it better when pushing hard and not taking time to aim for head. Otherwise I like the 7 for its better accuracy from range and it usually outperforms my teammate in those situations taking out specials from range which I usually feel is my job as a vet.

[Shining_Darkness]

Originally posted by Imnuktam:

Originally posted by m99noble:

Recon6D is faster ttk. Considerably faster.

The ones that run alongside me with that in their hands while im using this would disagree ;)

I have both but I def like this one better. While it fires only half as fast, it does more damage especially to armored targets with better pen and accuracy while being more ammo efficient.

I get someone every 2-3 games who watches me get credit for 85% of the special kills asking about my build and talks about putting their recon away to try this one. I use sword for fodder but for specials, this one is the best in class imo hands down.

Oof, you are one of those players. Have you considered that your damage was merely what killed it but they only needed a half second or less and they would have killed it?

The Vld has to be built right so I can guarantee those players running it that are not killing things faster than you have simply not built the blessings and perks right on it and may have not picked optimal talents to go with it. The entire point of the Vld is the ridiculously high fire rate which allows it to nearly instantly build stacks of whatever you are trying to stack on the target to make a recon las not suck. It requires consistent headshots with the Headhunter 4 blessing to near-instantly get +25% crit which then fuels the rest of the build. So you get a charge of around 105 that will last for at least double that in shots so long as you are getting those consistent crits and since you are aiming weakspots they are weakspot crits. It should, in the current patch, be absolutely melting everything but monstrosities (yes, that includes crushers and maulers).

[Imnuktam]

Originally posted by Shining_Darkness:

Originally posted by Imnuktam:

The ones that run alongside me with that in their hands while im using this would disagree ;)

I have both but I def like this one better. While it fires only half as fast, it does more damage especially to armored targets with better pen and accuracy while being more ammo efficient.

I get someone every 2-3 games who watches me get credit for 85% of the special kills asking about my build and talks about putting their recon away to try this one. I use sword for fodder but for specials, this one is the best in class imo hands down.

Oof, you are one of those players. Have you considered that your damage was merely what killed it but they only needed a half second or less and they would have killed it?

The Vld has to be built right so I can guarantee those players running it that are not killing things faster than you have simply not built the blessings and perks right on it and may have not picked optimal talents to go with it. The entire point of the Vld is the ridiculously high fire rate which allows it to nearly instantly build stacks of whatever you are trying to stack on the target to make a recon las not suck. It requires consistent headshots with the Headhunter 4 blessing to near-instantly get +25% crit which then fuels the rest of the build. So you get a charge of around 105 that will last for at least double that in shots so long as you are getting those consistent crits and since you are aiming weakspots they are weakspot crits. It should, in the current patch, be absolutely melting everything but monstrosities (yes, that includes crushers and maulers).

Stopped reading at "oof you are one of those players" anyone who starts their point by being ignorant isnt worth wasting the time it takes to read on.

[m99noble]

Originally posted by Imnuktam:

Originally posted by m99noble:

Recon6D is faster ttk. Considerably faster.

The ones that run alongside me with that in their hands while im using this would disagree ;)

I have both but I def like this one better. While it fires only half as fast, it does more damage especially to armored targets with better pen and accuracy while being more ammo efficient.

I get someone every 2-3 games who watches me get credit for 85% of the special kills asking about my build and talks about putting their recon away to try this one. I use sword for fodder but for specials, this one is the best in class imo hands down.

its not a matter of agree or disagree. When criting + infernus procing in the exact same setup. Recon6D is a faster TTK. The ones you run with just dont hit heads as often or consistently. Revolver w/Surgical and Hand Cannon is also a faster TTK depending on how quickly a person can line the head shot. Two burst Vraks 3 to the body is also faster much less one burst head shot crit.

Im not saying what you should prefer or not. Im not saying your gun is bad. Im saying there are other weapons that do the same job but objectively faster in less ammo.

[Shining_Darkness]

Originally posted by Imnuktam:

Originally posted by Shining_Darkness:

Oof, you are one of those players. Have you considered that your damage was merely what killed it but they only needed a half second or less and they would have killed it?

The Vld has to be built right so I can guarantee those players running it that are not killing things faster than you have simply not built the blessings and perks right on it and may have not picked optimal talents to go with it. The entire point of the Vld is the ridiculously high fire rate which allows it to nearly instantly build stacks of whatever you are trying to stack on the target to make a recon las not suck. It requires consistent headshots with the Headhunter 4 blessing to near-instantly get +25% crit which then fuels the rest of the build. So you get a charge of around 105 that will last for at least double that in shots so long as you are getting those consistent crits and since you are aiming weakspots they are weakspot crits. It should, in the current patch, be absolutely melting everything but monstrosities (yes, that includes crushers and maulers).

Stopped reading at "oof you are one of those players" anyone who starts their point by being ignorant isnt worth wasting the time it takes to read on.

Case in point. You are indeed, one of those players. So ignore what I said. Cope, that is all you know how to do. Why are you asking for a good build when you clearly already know everything there is to know about making a recon lasgun build?

[Imnuktam]

Originally posted by Shining_Darkness:

Originally posted by Imnuktam:

Stopped reading at "oof you are one of those players" anyone who starts their point by being ignorant isnt worth wasting the time it takes to read on.

Case in point. You are indeed, one of those players. So ignore what I said. Cope, that is all you know how to do. Why are you asking for a good build when you clearly already know everything there is to know about making a recon lasgun build?

I am not the OP who asked that. Your comprehension skills are as poor as your interaction skills. Obviously people will stop listening to you when you act like an ass, why would they waste their time on you.