PSA : STOP SHOOTING THE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ BURSTERS

[Private Racco]

Title, if you see a burster running up to somebody and you see a teammate with their melee weapon out, they're trying to SAFELY DISPOSE OF A BURSTER BY SHOVING IT OUT OF THE WAY WHEN THEY'RE ABOUT TO BLOW UP. DO NOT TRY TO SHOOT IT WHEN IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO SOMEBODY, PLEASE.

There are 2 scenarios where shooting a burster should be acceptable : you have a long line of sight and you can safely shoot it because nobody is in the way (then again, bursters are surprisingly tanky considering their nature, so maybe not worth the ammo?) or if you have a high knockback weapon and you can stagger it for sure.

But for the love of the God-Emperor, there's nothing more insulting than having a decent run and having it ruined because some doofus shot at a burster next to you and either ruined your health (because you just healed at a medicae station or used a medipack) or just downright ledges you, which causes a snowball effect of either you getting downed or dying and the entire team dies because they're now short a member, in a game where the squad is already small, and mistakes count for alot.

Think about it, if a burster manages to knock you back, ledge you, down you, even deal damage to you or multiple members of the squad, it succeeded in its task, and guess what ? Once that damage is done, there's not alot of ways to undo it. I think the squad should prioritize thwarting the specialist enemies' attempts of using their special abilities (stopping flamers from blocking your line of sight with flames, stopping trappers from shooting their nets, stopping bombers from throwing nades, you get the gist) because THAT goes a long way, and it increases the chances of succesful runs, AND decreases frustration linked to the snowball effect.

Or you know, at the very least, you could APOLOGIZE when that happens and it was an honest to god mistake, idk...

[Werdna]

Originally posted by Ward_Trangler_69:

Pfft. Grow up and be more mature about it. Instead of complaining here, spend the rest of the game exploding barrels next to the person who did that or lead elites/specialists towards them, while attempting to throw the game at every opportunity. That's the healthy way to go about it that will actually provide some results.

Sounds like pain in the ass. I prefer agroing demonhost and pressing invis

[MrHugz]

Considering bursters now blow each other up, it's debatable. If its just once burster then cease fire and shove it, but if multiple poxbursters are spawning in auric maelstrom and in a line you'd be dumb not to shoot them. Even allowing 2 or more to get close is going to cause significant damage to the team, you may as well kill them from a distance.

[Silhouette]

Maybe you’re asking the wrong question.

As an experienced player, who knows others regularly shoot bursters, why are you trying to melee them?

It feels like the best thing to do is tag them, keep your distance, and if you don’t have a weapon capable of killing them let someone else on your team handle it.

I understand your frustration, but if this keeps happening to you, you may need to change how you approach them.

Or maybe I’m not fully appreciating the problem. I regularly play a lightning Psyker, so bursters normally aren’t a problem in my games. o_o

[Stardustfire]

only because soemeone wields a melee weapon i shoud wagger my savety in the hope he really uses it for shoveing the burster instead of doing something else with his melee weapon? no thnx, seen not so many ppl who shove them, the majoriy not even recognice them incoming, so i bet on a shot at them when they not already in burst dmg range...

[Valravn]

I myself am tired of people desperately trying to push burtsters for no reason at all!
If you can shoot them don't start running towards it, shoot it, shoot it! The characters even call it out, pushing it is a last ditch solution and not entirely safe either. Less safe then shooting it anyway.

[PK_Thunder]

I don't have a dedicated group for this game, because anyone I know who bought it uninstalled after how much of a disaster launch was.

Therefore I play with randoms. Having played with randoms long enough I know that most of them are queuing for difficulty above their skill level pretty much 75% of the time.

Which means that I will never, ever, trust any other player to play correctly.

If my choice is trusting a random to push a burster correctly, or shooting it and letting it hit only him, I'll shoot it literally every time I see it first. Because the alternative is the random fails the push or doesn't do it at all, and the burster hits the whole team instead.

[Harukage]

Pfft. My 15 games wothout going down streak had ended on 12, when i as a veteran went down after 2 times in a row a random ogryn shot a burster right when i was about to push it. To be even more salty it was a different ogryn each time. Yes i had 2 big dudes in my party.

[Silhouette]

Originally posted by TrueHawk:

Pushing it is a last ditch solution and not entirely safe either. Less safe then shooting it anyway.

Originally posted by PK_Thunder:

If my choice is trusting a random to push a burster correctly, or shooting it and letting it hit only him, I'll shoot it literally every time I see it first. Because the alternative is the random fails the push or doesn't do it at all, and the burster hits the whole team instead.

Yeah, both of those statements kinda mirror my feelings too. o_o

I guess if you’re really eager on engaging bursters in melee, you NEED to get on the mic and declare your intentions ahead of time. Otherwise, don’t be surprised when someone opens fire on the burster.

[Harukage]

^
If you see a team mate slightly aways and a burster closing down and shoot, you are just intentialy damaging him with your shot, without allowing him to safely push away an enemy. Pure malice and nothing else.

[Silhouette]

Or pure stupidity on that players part for running towards a ticking time bomb. :3

Seriously though, I try to avoid killing bursters when another player is near them. When I hear a burster I immediately try to identify where it is, then tag/shoot it before it gets close enough to be a problem.

Pushing really should be a last resort, it’s much safer to shoot them from a distance.

[MrHugz]

Originally posted by Silhouette:

Or pure stupidity on that players part for running towards a ticking time bomb. :3

If you're at a safe distance from a burster and someone else is not, you should leave that choice to the discretion of the person who's about to be blown up. There isn't a reason for you to shoot a burster when it is just a few meters away from an ally.

[Kenpachi Ramasama]

coxburster burst hehe....

[Taiji]

Seems a lot of folk just push it once then dodge back - Push it twice instead.

[Valravn]

Originally posted by Taiji:

Seems a lot of folk just push it once then dodge back - Push it twice instead.

Or dodge twice...

[Kotzi]

No need to get upset, good players will already know, bad players with no single brain cell will never learn.