PLASMA builds

[jano el pajero]

any ideas for the plasma gun ?

[XIX Victorious Aut Mortis]

this is my plasma gun build, and you have 4 points left to spend into whatever nodes you want.
Longshot
Volly adept
Frag
Ranged boost
Catcha breath
survilaist
reload boost
kill zone
opening salvo
Executioner stance
all 3 augments
ranged damage boost
Stamina boost
tacitcal awarness
Bring it down
HP boost
toghness boost
ironwill and Confrimed kill
inspiring presnece
competive ugre
Rednering strikes
toughness boost
For the emperor.

for blessing wise for the plasma with Glory hunter. and +25% unwieldy and Carapace armour. since that what your weapons really going to be aiming for. for melee weapons ethier knife, PS, Shovel or Devil claw. all have benefits and draw backs?

[Germaine's Bra]

With the hellbore able to one-shot a Crusher....

Just why use a Plasma? It doesn't pierce (normal shots) or anything to be useful....

[XIX Victorious Aut Mortis]

Originally posted by Germaine's Bra:

With the hellbore able to one-shot a Crusher....

Just why use a Plasma? It doesn't pierce or anything to be useful....

why effective it just not meta.

[2D > 3D WEEB 4 LIFE]

I think the gun is in a weird spot where it doesn't make sense to use it in a ranged build which is why I run it with melee builds since it doesn't require any ranged nodes to be good.

[Orfin]

Originally posted by Germaine's Bra:

With the hellbore able to one-shot a Crusher....

Just why use a Plasma? It doesn't pierce or anything to be useful....

It pierces everything tho - other elites, your teammates, even stationary cover.

[coldgarden]

Originally posted by Germaine's Bra:

With the hellbore able to one-shot a Crusher....

Just why use a Plasma? It doesn't pierce or anything to be useful....

It does. That is it's advantage, you obviously have never used it. It can pierce bulwarks shields, light cover, and several enemy bodies. It's charge attack is the most power ranged attack in the game at well over 1000 damage.

[coldgarden]

Originally posted by XIX Victorious Aut Mortis:

this is my plasma gun build, and you have 4 points left to spend into whatever nodes you want.
Longshot
Volly adept
Frag
Ranged boost
Catcha breath
survilaist
reload boost
kill zone
opening salvo
Executioner stance
all 3 augments
ranged damage boost
Stamina boost
tacitcal awarness
Bring it down
HP boost
toghness boost
ironwill and Confrimed kill
inspiring presnece
competive ugre
Rednering strikes
toughness boost
For the emperor.

for blessing wise for the plasma with Glory hunter. and +25% unwieldy and Carapace armour. since that what your weapons really going to be aiming for. for melee weapons ethier knife, PS, Shovel or Devil claw. all have benefits and draw backs?

Great build! I also like to use plasma. Players like us, who have played for awhile, like to switch up weapons from time to time. Who cares about meta? Not I.

[Apo]

Originally posted by coldgarden:

Originally posted by Germaine's Bra:

With the hellbore able to one-shot a Crusher....

Just why use a Plasma? It doesn't pierce or anything to be useful....

It does. That is it's advantage, you obviously have never used it. It can pierce bulwarks shields, light cover, and several enemy bodies. It's charge attack is the most power ranged attack in the game at well over 1000 damage.

Try hellbore III and you see the plasma damage is a joke.
The even bigger joke is it builds up heat like insanely fast, while having insane ammo consupmtion while also having the longest reload time in the entire game, having mediocre dps (not single shot, but actual dps) and then you can factor in that the class rework heavily promotes lasguns due to the fact las weapon crits are not consuming any ammo.

Plasma was already bad before rework due to all the above and with the rework it got downright demoted further.

It badly needs a rework as in current form it is just a meme weapon. The only shining point is the bullwark shield pierce, but guess what, you can do that with bolter, which is faster, better dps, better burst, no heat system and way faster reload and got about 4 times more ammo (full charge plasma shot is 9 ammo, same as hellbore III, but that comes with 800+ ammo)

[coldgarden]

Originally posted by HunApo:

Originally posted by coldgarden:

It does. That is it's advantage, you obviously have never used it. It can pierce bulwarks shields, light cover, and several enemy bodies. It's charge attack is the most power ranged attack in the game at well over 1000 damage.

Try hellbore III and you see the plasma damage is a joke.
The even bigger joke is it builds up heat like insanely fast, while having insane ammo consupmtion while also having the longest reload time in the entire game, having mediocre dps (not single shot, but actual dps) and then you can factor in that the class rework heavily promotes lasguns due to the fact las weapon crits are not consuming any ammo.

Plasma was already bad before rework due to all the above and with the rework it got downright demoted further.

It badly needs a rework as in current form it is just a meme weapon. The only shining point is the bullwark shield pierce, but guess what, you can do that with bolter, which is faster, better dps, better burst, no heat system and way faster reload.

I 100% agree that they need to look at the plasma gun and give it a buff, along with the 3 shotguns. The hellbore III is a weapon that I don't have a lot of experience with. I'll get one when I start playing and play a few rounds with it. A lot of people have been singing it's praises.

[Kao]

Originally posted by Germaine's Bra:

With the hellbore able to one-shot a Crusher....

Just why use a Plasma? It doesn't pierce (normal shots) or anything to be useful....

Tell me when your hellbore can finish an entire rager pack on a hip shot.
Plasma gun is a sniper, a rifle and a shotgun all in one.
As stated above, it doesn’t need marksman nodes to do what it does, making it a prime choice for melee or support builds.

Go play your hellbore without crit, sway reduction, weakspot damage, exec stance, etc. and tell me if you still one shot crushers.

[coldgarden]

I just tried out the Hellbore III. I had to buy like 20 from Brunt just to get a couple with decent rolls, and a few I could use to get blessings and then turn the in to archive the blessings. I was real impressed with the power of the Helbore. It's a fun weapon to play. I've never used it much, so I'm glad that I tried it out. It truly rocks. It takes down ragers and gunners with ease. It hits Bulwarks hard. I'll have to mess around in training to see how it does with crushers, the few I met in the last game were handled pretty easily with krak grenades. No joke, the helbore is a force of it's own.

[penguin_of_linux]

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[Calv]

Originally posted by coldgarden:

I just tried out the Hellbore III. I had to buy like 20 from Brunt just to get a couple with decent rolls, and a few I could use to get blessings and then turn the in to archive the blessings. I was real impressed with the power of the Helbore. It's a fun weapon to play. I've never used it much, so I'm glad that I tried it out. It truly rocks. It takes down ragers and gunners with ease. It hits Bulwarks hard. I'll have to mess around in training to see how it does with crushers, the few I met in the last game were handled pretty easily with krak grenades. No joke, the helbore is a force of it's own.

I do love the hellbore, but I did find it difficult to utilise in damnation due to the long switch and charge time.
Feels like I can switch to Plasma and get a shot off on a special or elite much quicker whilst dancing around a horde.

[Apo]

Originally posted by Calv:

Originally posted by coldgarden:

I just tried out the Hellbore III. I had to buy like 20 from Brunt just to get a couple with decent rolls, and a few I could use to get blessings and then turn the in to archive the blessings. I was real impressed with the power of the Helbore. It's a fun weapon to play. I've never used it much, so I'm glad that I tried it out. It truly rocks. It takes down ragers and gunners with ease. It hits Bulwarks hard. I'll have to mess around in training to see how it does with crushers, the few I met in the last game were handled pretty easily with krak grenades. No joke, the helbore is a force of it's own.

I do love the hellbore, but I did find it difficult to utilise in damnation due to the long switch and charge time.
Feels like I can switch to Plasma and get a shot off on a special or elite much quicker whilst dancing around a horde.

Hellbore needs onslaught for blessing, that solves the charge up time and i mean it basically deletes it.
Full charge takes less than 0.5s even with tier 3 onslaught.
Slap a surgical on it and you have basically perma 100% crit chance which means you never ever have to reload the weapon, unless you tap thrash shooty boys.

[Deathspider12]

Originally posted by coldgarden:

Originally posted by Germaine's Bra:

With the hellbore able to one-shot a Crusher....

Just why use a Plasma? It doesn't pierce or anything to be useful....

It does. That is it's advantage, you obviously have never used it. It can pierce bulwarks shields, light cover, and several enemy bodies. It's charge attack is the most power ranged attack in the game at well over 1000 damage.

Well... just throw the Sticky Grenade at it and be done with the shield, he is right that the Plasma gun ( ONCE AGAIN ) is pure Garbage right now in Comparision to other guns, i mean, even the F***ing Autoguns do more Damage as the Plasma...
Only Advantage the gun has, is that it Penetrate Walls and Shield, thats it. you cant effectively kill Specials/Elite when swarmed, you cant kill normal range units since thats a waste of ammo with how little plasma already have.