Level Requirements for T4-T5 should be mandatory

[Humbled]

Currently you could get players at level 20 or higher. Obviously prefer higher levels for these tiers. Maybe even a LFG system would be nice.

T4- lvl25+
T5- lvl30 only

[Calv]

No.

[KiT2142]

Indeed. There is no reason to allow anyone below level 30 in T5 games. They have neither perks nor gear to reliably handle this difficuly and teammates should not have to carry them

I honestly miss modded vermintide where you can see your teammates gear and you can start votekick if you see freeloader with crap gear and/or low level

[Cipher Esteria]

This discussion was already beaten to death in Vermintide 2.
If they have the level for the Difficulty, they get to play on it.
if you don't like it, you can Alt+F4 at any moment.
If they "drag" you down, then learn to carry the game better.

[RADN3CTAR]

Originally posted by Mr.Cipher:

This discussion was already beaten to death in Vermintide 2.
If they have the level for the Difficulty, they get to play on it.
if you don't like it, you can Alt+F4 at any moment.
If they "drag" you down, then learn to carry the game better.

Condescending much?

[Oktakon]

im pretty sure the low lvs get the message that they cant play a t5 at lv20 with lv20 gear, unless ur the best of your class skills wise...... the game isnt fun anymore if you keep losing over and over again .... they simply get the message and lower the search range to T1-T3 then its all good again.... until they try again.......... come on its been like this since beta days...

[Calv]

Level doesn't mean that much.

A good player can not only handle these difficulties at low level but usually the carry the trash level 30s that think they know what they're doing.

[Vaati]

The moment you get a +1 wound curio, sure go into 4 and 5, even bad players absorb damage, gives me more time to throw assail darts and trauma aoe.

[Lamiosa]

Maybe an archivement "carry the weak" would solve the anger about having low levels in a run. I mean it can be seen as additional challenge, if 3 high levels have to revive and carry the low level over and over again and still finish. Right now it is not the case, but at release I saw many runs where you were forced to play with Bots a whole run, because not many people where in high level back that time. Nearly all low levels are better than a high level bot.

[lockwoodx]

If inexperienced t4 is a gear check. t5 is a brick wall for solo. t3 honestly feels too easy after coming back. t2 is a milk run. t1 is an empty void for map exploration.

[Mulqueeny]

Originally posted by KiT2142:

Indeed. There is no reason to allow anyone below level 30 in T5 games. They have neither perks nor gear to reliably handle this difficuly and teammates should not have to carry them

I honestly miss modded vermintide where you can see your teammates gear and you can start votekick if you see freeloader with crap gear and/or low level

Even at 30 until you have some decent gear you shouldn't go into T5 otherwise you'll get creamed.

I've been playing on an off since release, just started an Ogryn because I was bored... my God the amount of carrying I've had to do, not only this players just wandering off and dying all the time.

[Autoro]

Originally posted by RADN3CTAR:

Originally posted by Mr.Cipher:

This discussion was already beaten to death in Vermintide 2.
If they have the level for the Difficulty, they get to play on it.
if you don't like it, you can Alt+F4 at any moment.
If they "drag" you down, then learn to carry the game better.

Condescending much?

No, no... He's got a point. It was the case in Vermintide, it's the case here. Get your gamer on, and carry the team or just exit the lobby, and find a new one.

Ogryn is really good at the team-carrying thing.

[KiT2142]

Originally posted by (Mulqueeny):

Originally posted by KiT2142:

Indeed. There is no reason to allow anyone below level 30 in T5 games. They have neither perks nor gear to reliably handle this difficuly and teammates should not have to carry them

I honestly miss modded vermintide where you can see your teammates gear and you can start votekick if you see freeloader with crap gear and/or low level

Even at 30 until you have some decent gear you shouldn't go into T5 otherwise you'll get creamed.

I've been playing on an off since release, just started an Ogryn because I was bored... my God the amount of carrying I've had to do, not only this players just wandering off and dying all the time.

True that, but I can't think of a reliable way to gear check outside of allowing teammates to see what you're carrying, and cosidering fatshark refuses to implement even a scoreboard(muh toxicity) I don't see this ever happening.

[Calv]

Originally posted by KiT2142:

Originally posted by (Mulqueeny):

Even at 30 until you have some decent gear you shouldn't go into T5 otherwise you'll get creamed.

I've been playing on an off since release, just started an Ogryn because I was bored... my God the amount of carrying I've had to do, not only this players just wandering off and dying all the time.

True that, but I can't think of a reliable way to gear check outside of allowing teammates to see what you're carrying, and cosidering fatshark refuses to implement even a scoreboard(muh toxicity) I don't see this ever happening.

Yeah, it's unlikely to happen.

Gear viewing was added to Vermintide and then promptly changed to only be viewable if you specifically allow it to be in the options due to people that would straight up kick others for not having "meta" builds.

[Autoro]

Originally posted by Calv:

due to people that would straight up kick others for not having "meta" builds.

Aye, meta players are like that, unfortunately. Can't just let people play the game, and dip out... Gotta be the one who stays in the mission that took a minute to load into...

[KiT2142]

Originally posted by Calv:

Originally posted by KiT2142:

True that, but I can't think of a reliable way to gear check outside of allowing teammates to see what you're carrying, and cosidering fatshark refuses to implement even a scoreboard(muh toxicity) I don't see this ever happening.

Yeah, it's unlikely to happen.

Gear viewing was added to Vermintide and then promptly changed to only be viewable if you specifically allow it to be in the options due to people that would straight up kick others for not having "meta" builds.

tbh having the same system in DT while not ideal would be nice as well
Hidden = kick, because if you're properly geared you have nothing to hide