Warhammer 40,000: Darktide

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Alternatives to voidstrike staff for carapace/armor?
Thanks to all the people crying now voidstrike is garbage at what it exceeded before wich is Elite killing, revolver is too reliant on blessings and the RNG cassino. Which secondary do you guys see becoming the new standard for P14 Psyker?
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Qau'lthir Oct 25, 2023 @ 7:25am 
Voidstrike isn't garbage if you know how to use it.

As for an alternative: Use Brain Burst or the Surge staff.
Archon Dagoth Oct 25, 2023 @ 7:29am 
Originally posted by Qau'lthir:
Voidstrike isn't garbage if you know how to use it.

As for an alternative: Use Brain Burst or the Surge staff.

Have you played with it since patch 14 dropped? It needs now 4~5 shots to kill Bulwarks. If you are running Psyonics build you kind of have to relly on elite kills, which was easier before with 2 or 3 hits.

I'd rather only use a white revolver and nothing else than use Brain Burst as it currently is.

I will give the Surge staff a try tho.
Last edited by Archon Dagoth; Oct 25, 2023 @ 11:07am
My Surge staff still two hits crushers and bulwarks. but the Utility of the voidstrike is still really good.
Qau'lthir Oct 25, 2023 @ 7:39am 
Originally posted by _db:
Originally posted by Qau'lthir:
Voidstrike isn't garbage if you know how to use it.

As for an alternative: Use Brain Burst or the Surge staff.

Have you played with it since patch 14 dropped? It needs now 4~5 shots to kill Bulwarks. If you are running Psyonics build you kind of have to relly on elite kills, which was easier before with 2 or 3 hits.

I'd rather only use an white revolver and nothing else than use Brain Burst as it currently is.

I will give the Surge staff a try tho.

Yes I have used the Voidstrike staff since the patch dropped and I'm all for a weapon that has near-infinite punch-through having a weakness. No one weapons should act as a proverbial swiss army knife.

... I even used the Voidstaff before it got its mega-buff and it was fine back then too.
Archon Dagoth Oct 25, 2023 @ 7:58am 
Originally posted by Qau'lthir:
Originally posted by _db:

Have you played with it since patch 14 dropped? It needs now 4~5 shots to kill Bulwarks. If you are running Psyonics build you kind of have to relly on elite kills, which was easier before with 2 or 3 hits.

I'd rather only use an white revolver and nothing else than use Brain Burst as it currently is.

I will give the Surge staff a try tho.

Yes I have used the Voidstrike staff since the patch dropped and I'm all for a weapon that has near-infinite punch-through having a weakness. No one weapons should act as a proverbial swiss army knife.

... I even used the Voidstaff before it got its mega-buff and it was fine back then too.


I never used as a do all and never considered it as a swiss army knife, in my experience it was meh as a trash dispenser and still is, the thing has no AOE altho it looks like large energy ball kind of like a bazooca shot but no, it is single target with a small blast that sometimes staggers lesser enemies.

My main use for it was dealing with elites and it got nerfed at that, so now I will try something else.

Speaking of swiss Army knife, Veteran and Ogryn have multiple weapons that basically can do everything in the right builds. Psyker if anything required the most weapon swtich of all the classes in comparison:

Mutie charging you and is very close? Drop a shield/dodge then melee him
Trash overwheming you or your team? Go for assail/smite to quickly free someone from the choke
Sniper/gunner/shooters far away in a new room? Switch to a precise ranged option
Elites/Monstrosities? use Voidstrike etc

Ogryn and Vet have lots of weapons that are good in all scenarios above.
Ethical Lune Oct 25, 2023 @ 8:00am 
Oh no something obscenely op was nerfed to reasonable levels, I better whine and cry about it.
Archon Dagoth Oct 25, 2023 @ 8:02am 
Originally posted by Ethical Lune:
Oh no something obscenely op was nerfed to reasonable levels, I better whine and cry about it.

Oh no I can't solo the game as brain dead class anymore, better whine and cry for nerfs.
Five Oct 25, 2023 @ 8:04am 
Originally posted by _db:
Originally posted by Ethical Lune:
Oh no something obscenely op was nerfed to reasonable levels, I better whine and cry about it.

Oh no I can't solo the game as brain dead class anymore, better whine and cry for nerfs.

It's actually the mentality of lobsters pulling each other back down into the bucket when one of them is about to escape...

Crazy to me how people focus more on trying to drag down other people and calling for nerfs for things other people are using instead of asking for a little love for whatever they enjoy playing instead
Kao Oct 25, 2023 @ 8:07am 
Originally posted by _db:
Originally posted by Qau'lthir:
Voidstrike isn't garbage if you know how to use it.

As for an alternative: Use Brain Burst or the Surge staff.

Have you played with it since patch 14 dropped? It needs now 4~5 shots to kill Bulwarks. If you are running Psyonics build you kind of have to relly on elite kills, which was easier before with 2 or 3 hits.

I'd rather only use an white revolver and nothing else than use Brain Burst as it currently is.

I will give the Surge staff a try tho.

O no! Bulwarks behave like actual bulwarks!
O nooo!
Kiekmgoan46 Oct 25, 2023 @ 8:08am 
Dueling swords with uncanny strike heavies to the face will drop them real quick.
Archon Dagoth Oct 25, 2023 @ 8:09am 
Originally posted by Five:
Originally posted by _db:

Oh no I can't solo the game as brain dead class anymore, better whine and cry for nerfs.

It's actually the mentality of lobsters pulling each other back down into the bucket when one of them is about to escape...

Crazy to me how people focus more on trying to drag down other people and calling for nerfs for things other people are using instead of asking for a little love for whatever they enjoy playing instead

Weird thing is, people are still crying for nerfs btw. They are probably Vets and Ogryns since these two classes are insanely strong and can pretty much carry and solo anything below Auric Maelstrom yet I see no one asking for Ogryn or Vet nerfs.

If we were to be fair every class must suck so we actually have to play as a team to get anything done in the game right? No. The community clearly has toxic favoritism and it is already poisoning the wells this early in development.

In my opinion they should let classes feel strong, this is a silly power fantasy game at heart, let people have fun.
Archon Dagoth Oct 25, 2023 @ 8:11am 
Originally posted by Kao:
Originally posted by _db:

Have you played with it since patch 14 dropped? It needs now 4~5 shots to kill Bulwarks. If you are running Psyonics build you kind of have to relly on elite kills, which was easier before with 2 or 3 hits.

I'd rather only use an white revolver and nothing else than use Brain Burst as it currently is.

I will give the Surge staff a try tho.

O no! Bulwarks behave like actual bulwarks!
O nooo!

What is your point? Vet and Ogryn can melt bulwarks in microseconds with the right build, Zelot can two shot with Eviscerator and one shot with hammer if they want. Psyker needs to suck for some reason.
Last edited by Archon Dagoth; Oct 25, 2023 @ 8:11am
Moffin Bovin Oct 25, 2023 @ 8:23am 
Originally posted by _db:
In my opinion they should let classes feel strong, this is a silly power fantasy game at heart, let people have fun.

play the game on uprising and you can feel as strong as you want.
Archon Dagoth Oct 25, 2023 @ 9:21am 
Originally posted by Moffin Bovin:
Originally posted by _db:
In my opinion they should let classes feel strong, this is a silly power fantasy game at heart, let people have fun.

play the game on uprising and you can feel as strong as you want.

Play Ogryn and Veteran and you feel strong in all dificulties now, should we nerf them too so all classes feel like stucking your junk in a dishwash to play?
Le Hatch Oct 25, 2023 @ 9:30am 
Oh no, its now two charges to kill a crusher instead of one, the weapon is dead, woe be to the psyker players that need to put in a modicum bit more effort to kill everything now, whatever shall they do now that they are unable to be the main character in every difficulty with a single weapon.

Hyperbole doesn't help your claims, neither does crying on the forum.
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Date Posted: Oct 25, 2023 @ 7:18am
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