Recommended Chainsword Blessings For Veterans?

[Malevelon Krieg]

Title, what is good for Damnation? Below is the list of all the blessings.
Full caveat, I've been using Powersword exclusively since launch. I did use the Chainsword for a bit at launch and remember it to be good against armored targets in Malice difficulty.

Can I get some recommendations? Too much conflicting information on Reddit/Steam so I'd like to create my own discussion so I can pose questions as they come up.

What I'd really like is to be able to deal with Horde (i.e. wide horizontal slashing) while being able to cut through armored elites.

Looking forward to reading all your suggestions!

Chainsword Blessings

Bloodletter - ⬆️5 Votes, ⬇️1 Vote
+11-14 Bleed Stacks from Special Attacks.

Bloodthirsty - ⬆️1 Votes
+100% Critical Chance on Special Attack Kill.

Devastating Strike - ⬆️0 Votes
+65-80% Cleave for 5 seconds on Critical Hit.

Rampage - ⬆️5 Votes
Hitting at least 3 enemies with an attack, increases your damage by 24-36% for 3 seconds.

Rev it Up - ⬆️0 Votes
+17-20% Movement Speed for 2s on Weapon Special Activation.

Savage Sweep - ⬆️0 Votes
Hitting at least 3 enemies with an attack, increases your cleave by 140-200% for 2 seconds.

Shred - ⬆️0 Votes
+2.5-4% Bonus Critical Chance on Chained Hit. Stacks 5 times.

Wrath - ⬆️3 Votes
+25-40% Cleave on Hit. Stacks 5 times.

[Katitoff]

I have rampage and wrath on my chainsword and it does the job perfectly fine.
I'd like bloodletter for the sake of how strong bleed is now, however as a vet, you're going to be gunning down elites and specials(usually), so it felt pointless, but wrath and rampage give you great combo for horde clear and if you need to take that elite in melee, regular rev attack works just fine.

[2D > 3D WEEB 4 LIFE]

Bloodletter enables the killing of every elite with a single saw activation so the other Blessing is just what you like on top of that.

[Malevelon Krieg]

Originally posted by Katitoff:

I have rampage and wrath on my chainsword and it does the job perfectly fine.
I'd like bloodletter for the sake of how strong bleed is now, however as a vet, you're going to be gunning down elites and specials(usually), so it felt pointless, but wrath and rampage give you great combo for horde clear and if you need to take that elite in melee, regular rev attack works just fine.

Rampage and Bloodletter are two Blessngs that I shortlisted to be great for Damnation. There were a few times where I run outta ammo when suddenly 3-4 maulers appear. and I'm left with 1 or 1.5 maulers left alive who are too close for comfort.

Can you share what exactly Cleave is? Savage Sweep also does Cleave. Does cleave affect damage? Or does it affect how many enemies you can hit in a swing? Does this result in depreciating damage? I can never understand waht Cleave really is.

Originally posted by 2D > 3D WEEB 4 LIFE:

Bloodletter enables the killing of every elite with a single saw activation so the other Blessing is just what you like on top of that.

That's the one thing I like about Recon Lasgun + Infernus blessing. Is that you can apply a debuff on an enemy that will just kill em. Is it safe to say that I can just apply bleed on an elite and go back to thinning the horde?

[Donauwelle]

Originally posted by Panzer Shrek:

Can you share what exactly Cleave is?

Cleave determines how many enemys your Hit.... Hits....
You "Cleave" thru the enemys.
+25-40% Cleave on Hit. Stacks 5 times.
Meaning you hit 1-2 Enemys more per strike before your weapon "gets stuck"
Depending on weapon may end up with you just shredding thru the thickest Horde ingame.

Its really usefull especially on vet where your most time on your gun, and usually just grab your meele if there is
A: Horde not worth your ammo
B: Enemys too close
In both cases the Cleave helps not only killing but simply... making yourself some space to change back to range if nessesearly

[Malevelon Krieg]

Originally posted by Donauwelle:

Originally posted by Panzer Shrek:

Can you share what exactly Cleave is?

Cleave determines how many enemys your Hit.... Hits....
...
Its really usefull especially on vet where your most time on your gun, and usually just grab your meele if there is
A: Horde not worth your ammo
B: Enemys too close
In both cases the Cleave helps not only killing but simply... making yourself some space to change back to range if nessesearly

Thank you for this. I do recall that at one point after launch, I was stacking CLEAVE and STAGGER for all classes just so I can stop and thin hordes. But It's great to finally understand what it is actually for, because I cannot remember what they accurately mean.

Okay what you are mentioning is exactly why I am thinking of switching up from Powersword (w/ Powercycler 4) for Chainsword. Sometimes I get bogged down in melee that an elite gets too close and I'd have to dodge like a madman just so I can get my ranged weapon back online.

A chainsword would give me a fighting chance against carapace targets. (At least better chance compared to my powersword, I have zero confidence in using that against armored elites)

Any Blessings you'd advocate for?

[Donauwelle]

TBH if its just about "making space" nothing beats the Shovel.
Also you get +1 for Style using shovel on vet.

Even tho im running Chainsword with Wrath and Rampage aswell.
Better in "killing" then the mighty Shovel
Rampage Procs on 3 Hits and Wrath makes sure i always hit 3 Targets+Stacking more....
Kinda.... easy to keep it up...

[Kenpachi Ramasama]

bleed perk lvl 4 agains single target and bosses and rampage agains hordes

[2D > 3D WEEB 4 LIFE]

Originally posted by Panzer Shrek:

Is it safe to say that I can just apply bleed on an elite and go back to thinning the horde?

Crushers survive for a few seconds on Damnation and Maulers bleed out in less than one so the only thing they can do is punch.

[Malevelon Krieg]

Originally posted by Donauwelle:

TBH if its just about "making space" nothing beats the Shovel.

Even tho im running Chainsword with Wrath and Rampage aswell.
Rampage Procs on 3 Hits and Wrath makes sure i always hit 3 Targets....
Kinda.... easy to keep it up...

Oh! I actually do plan on making a shovel build for my Kriegsman

Back to Wrath, would the Rampage still work without it? I kinda plan on having Rampage + Bloodletter so I can deal with hordes and also be able to deal with Elites.

But I believe -- and correct me if I'm wrong -- If I do not have Wrath, then I can't light attack cleave as effectively?

[Malevelon Krieg]

Originally posted by 2D > 3D WEEB 4 LIFE:

Originally posted by Panzer Shrek:

Is it safe to say that I can just apply bleed on an elite and go back to thinning the horde?

Crushers survive for a few seconds on Damnation and Maulers bleed out in less than one so the only thing they can do is punch.

This seals the deal for me when it comes to the Bloodletter. I won't be going against it at full health, I believe teammates will be there to soften him up a tad bit.

So if you are saying that it will bring him down to the brink of death, then I'll definitely be hunting for Bloodletter IV from Melk's shop

[Mr.Four]

On the chainsword, I prefer bloodthirsty + blood letter. I use it on my vet and zealot. It's a quick answer to many tough opponents in close quarters. I think rampage and any of the cleave blessings will lean into that horde clear along with the unarmored perk to make the lights feel a little more effective. It crits quite often tbh. Shred + devastating strike might be pretty effective as well.

It's hard to say though at this point because it's probably getting a little bit of a nerf in the upcoming patch.

If you really want a horde weapon that has been buffed and given an incredible tweak, have a look at the devil claw sword. I used to ignore the weapon in place of the combat axe. Now, with a few stamina curios it's become my favorite melee weapon. I can easily handle some insane up close situations against ragers, crushers and maulers, the chaos spawn and scab captain, etc. It feels amazing and leans into a style that never relents to oncoming trouble. Chaining parry strikes is fairly easy after a little practice.

Plus it shreds hordes and has high maniac damage. I'm using a rampage + savage sweep on my vet alongside revolvers and braced autos and trying to build a rampage + shred for my zealot.

[H4NS]

Bloodletter and Rampage.

[m99noble]

Originally posted by Donauwelle:

Originally posted by Panzer Shrek:

Can you share what exactly Cleave is?

Cleave determines how many enemys your Hit.... Hits....
You "Cleave" thru the enemys.
+25-40% Cleave on Hit. Stacks 5 times.
Meaning you hit 1-2 Enemys more per strike before your weapon "gets stuck"
Depending on weapon may end up with you just shredding thru the thickest Horde ingame.

Its really usefull especially on vet where your most time on your gun, and usually just grab your meele if there is
A: Horde not worth your ammo
B: Enemys too close
In both cases the Cleave helps not only killing but simply... making yourself some space to change back to range if nessesearly

+Cleave on chainsword is worthless vs Rampage.
At default it is hitting in one heavy swing 5 targets.
Killing the first two and the damage is dropping off on the 3rd 4th 5th targets.
On 2nd heavy swing. It kills everything that has been damaged and makes the next 2 one tap. On the 3rd swing first 3 are a one tap.

[Junior]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3047769929

Not sure were the break point is but so far it one hit kill everything with the special attack besides crushers (2 hits) and monstrosity <-- this is based on the middle skill tree and the last one..
With the more "old school" vet build crushers will need 3 hits with the special attack

[Solus]

Originally posted by Junior:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3047769929

Not sure were the break point is but so far it one hit kill everything with the special attack besides crushers (2 hits) and monstrosity <-- this is based on the middle skill tree and the last one..
With the more "old school" vet build crushers will need 3 hits with the special attack

This mobility though...