So zealot gets the Death Cult Assassin inspired sublass, huh?

[Bisexual Offender]

So zealot gets the Death Cult Assassin inspired sublass, but do we also get cosmitics for it? I`m down for some Death Cult BDSM gear.

[snK]

where's the sauce for this mang

[Bisexual Offender]

Originally posted by sNk:

where's the sauce for this mang

There was a mention of one of the branches of zealot skill tree being inspired by a Death Cult Assassins, also the art and the whole blood thing

[Fingeris]

Originally posted by Bezyn:

Originally posted by sNk:

where's the sauce for this mang

There was a mention

where?

[snK]

Originally posted by Bezyn:

Originally posted by sNk:

where's the sauce for this mang

There was a mention of one of the branches of zealot skill tree being inspired by a Death Cult Assassins, also the art and the whole blood thing

dope. I hope this is true.
maybe Vindicare stuff for Veterans? :o

[Oonkeh]

They're inspired by them, yes.

That's where the line is drawn. We won't get actual Death Cult Assassins because those guys can murder Space Marines (which is "too powerful" for this specific setting... ignoring that we already kill mid-tier Daemons).

Fatshark refuse to up the ante with player classes because it'd "ruin" this specific game's setting and they've yet to land their promise on quarterly subclasses.

[Bisexual Offender]

Originally posted by Kameleon:

They're inspired by them, yes.

That's where the line is drawn. We won't get actual Death Cult Assassins because those guys can murder Space Marines (which is "too powerful" for this specific setting... ignoring that we already kill mid-tier Daemons).

Fatshark refuse to up the ante with player classes because it'd "ruin" this specific game's setting and they've yet to land their promise on quarterly subclasses.

I just live in cope that someday zealot gets any cosmetic I actually like

[=][=Alduran=][=]

Originally posted by Kameleon:

We won't get actual Death Cult Assassins because those guys can murder Space Marines (which is "too powerful" for this specific setting... ignoring that we already kill mid-tier Daemons).

No they can not. You mean the specific Officio Assassinorum which includes Callidus, Culexus, Vindicare and Evesor Temples. Those can Kill Space Marines because they are gene therapy and implant ridden murder machines.
Death Cult assassins are crazed, bloodlusty humans that have a highly specialized training and weapons but nothing more.

[Oonkeh]

Originally posted by ==Alduran==:

Originally posted by Kameleon:

We won't get actual Death Cult Assassins because those guys can murder Space Marines (which is "too powerful" for this specific setting... ignoring that we already kill mid-tier Daemons).

No they can not. You mean the specific Officio Assassinorum which includes Callidus, Culexus, Vindicare and Evesor Temples. Those can Kill Space Marines because they are gene therapy and implant ridden murder machines.
Death Cult assassins are crazed, bloodlusty humans that have a highly specialized training and weapons but nothing more.

One of the protags for Inquisitor — Martyr is a former Death Cult Assassin and confirms that the Death Cult assassins can, indeed, kill Heretical Astartes. And as we know, Martyr is canon to the events of 40k leading up into Guilliman's return. Whether or not GW allows for more fleshing out on the Alpha Pariah is up to them, though the most popular theory regarding them is that they will have a direct hand in Ynnead's resurrection (along with Ephrael Stern's part).

And when we consider what little is given to the Kill Team of Darktide, they're no longer simple "Rejects" (and it's a matter if Fatshark ever plays into this), meaning they're eligible for rarer, more expensive equipment specific to dealing with graver threats.

GW is in a consistent up and down with their own lore, right down to a simple human killing a Chaplain of the Word Bearers (pre-Heresy) with a sharpened stick to the throat.

It depends on the Assassin's outfit.

[Riqcrow]

while not too fan of concept "hi i'm a zealot and i can turn invisible suddenly", also would be disappointing not to get "class" specialized outfits that a) would make characters look a bit different b) could be bought with ingame currency/penances.

[Bomoo]

Imagine them ever adding any new cosmetics.

[Majestic]

Originally posted by Kameleon:

Originally posted by ==Alduran==:

No they can not. You mean the specific Officio Assassinorum which includes Callidus, Culexus, Vindicare and Evesor Temples. Those can Kill Space Marines because they are gene therapy and implant ridden murder machines.
Death Cult assassins are crazed, bloodlusty humans that have a highly specialized training and weapons but nothing more.

One of the protags for Inquisitor — Martyr is a former Death Cult Assassin and confirms that the Death Cult assassins can, indeed, kill Heretical Astartes. And as we know, Martyr is canon to the events of 40k leading up into Guilliman's return. Whether or not GW allows for more fleshing out on the Alpha Pariah is up to them, though the most popular theory regarding them is that they will have a direct hand in Ynnead's resurrection (along with Ephrael Stern's part).

And when we consider what little is given to the Kill Team of Darktide, they're no longer simple "Rejects" (and it's a matter if Fatshark ever plays into this), meaning they're eligible for rarer, more expensive equipment specific to dealing with graver threats.

GW is in a consistent up and down with their own lore, right down to a simple human killing a Chaplain of the Word Bearers (pre-Heresy) with a sharpened stick to the throat.

It depends on the Assassin's outfit.

The Assassin character is also a Protag. Protags get plot armor. Its the same as the Inquisitor or Mechanicus protags. They are special so they get to be special for the sake of gameplay reasons, Such as mowing down a legions worth of CSM's, Daemons and various other Xenos and Horrors.

The Death cult are just normal humans that just have murder boners and are trained in assassination techniques. It is HIGHLY unlikely in terms of lore outside of special plot armor and gameplay reasons, That a Death cult Assassin could kill even the most basic of standardest of space marines, Let alone a CSM. Could one pull it off? Maybe, But its very, very unlikely.

Just like gameplay and plot armor are the only reason the rejects don't instantly melt into a decaying puddle of flesh just by coming with in a single square mile of a Beast of Nurgle. Infact, If one was going to stay lore accurate, outside of special circumstances. the only Reject that stands a chance at potentially killing an SM, would be the Ogryn. Or maybe even the Vet if the SM was distracted enough for him to get a very well aimed plasma shot off.

[Bisexual Offender]

Originally posted by ᅚPointless:

Originally posted by Kameleon:

One of the protags for Inquisitor — Martyr is a former Death Cult Assassin and confirms that the Death Cult assassins can, indeed, kill Heretical Astartes. And as we know, Martyr is canon to the events of 40k leading up into Guilliman's return. Whether or not GW allows for more fleshing out on the Alpha Pariah is up to them, though the most popular theory regarding them is that they will have a direct hand in Ynnead's resurrection (along with Ephrael Stern's part).

And when we consider what little is given to the Kill Team of Darktide, they're no longer simple "Rejects" (and it's a matter if Fatshark ever plays into this), meaning they're eligible for rarer, more expensive equipment specific to dealing with graver threats.

GW is in a consistent up and down with their own lore, right down to a simple human killing a Chaplain of the Word Bearers (pre-Heresy) with a sharpened stick to the throat.

It depends on the Assassin's outfit.

The Assassin character is also a Protag. Protags get plot armor. Its the same as the Inquisitor or Mechanicus protags. They are special so they get to be special for the sake of gameplay reasons, Such as mowing down a legions worth of CSM's, Daemons and various other Xenos and Horrors.

The Death cult are just normal humans that just have murder boners and are trained in assassination techniques. It is HIGHLY unlikely in terms of lore outside of special plot armor and gameplay reasons, That a Death cult Assassin could kill even the most basic of standardest of space marines, Let alone a CSM. Could one pull it off? Maybe, But its very, very unlikely.

Just like gameplay and plot armor are the only reason the rejects don't instantly melt into a decaying puddle of flesh just by coming with in a single square mile of a Beast of Nurgle. Infact, If one was going to stay lore accurate, outside of special circumstances. the only Reject that stands a chance at potentially killing an SM, would be the Ogryn. Or maybe even the Vet if the SM was distracted enough for him to get a very well aimed plasma shot off.

That murder bone line is funny given that some death cults fashion weapons from bones of saints.

[2D > 3D WEEB 4 LIFE]

Originally posted by ᅚPointless:

The Death cult are just normal humans that just have murder boners and are trained in assassination techniques. It is HIGHLY unlikely in terms of lore outside of special plot armor and gameplay reasons, That a Death cult Assassin could kill even the most basic of standardest of space marines, Let alone a CSM. Could one pull it off? Maybe, But its very, very unlikely.

It's not that uncommon for regular Guardsmen to dome (C)SMs with Lasguns.

[XIX Victorious Aut Mortis]

Originally posted by sNk:

Originally posted by Bezyn:

There was a mention of one of the branches of zealot skill tree being inspired by a Death Cult Assassins, also the art and the whole blood thing

dope. I hope this is true.
maybe Vindicare stuff for Veterans? :o

why Vinciare assassin are like 1 in 1000 your not turning a guardsman into a offfico assassinorium.

[FilthyPeasant]

Originally posted by 2D > 3D WEEB 4 LIFE:

Originally posted by ᅚPointless:

The Death cult are just normal humans that just have murder boners and are trained in assassination techniques. It is HIGHLY unlikely in terms of lore outside of special plot armor and gameplay reasons, That a Death cult Assassin could kill even the most basic of standardest of space marines, Let alone a CSM. Could one pull it off? Maybe, But its very, very unlikely.

It's not that uncommon for regular Guardsmen to dome (C)SMs with Lasguns.

It's more than uncommon, it practically never happens.

Guard kill heretical Astartes with sheer numbers using all the heavy and special weapons they can bring to bare. If there are tanks, even better. Lasguns don't do squat against Astartes power armour unless your lucky enough to hit an unarmoured joint section and even then you'll just piss the thing off even more. You'd need a helgun, minimum, to even have a hope of getting through their armour.

The regular guardsmen die in droves keeping them distracted(hopefully) so that one guy with a plasma or melta gun can get a clear shot because the csm is sure as ♥♥♥♥ not gonna stand around long enough to let that happen if he knows they have weapons like that I assure you.