Warhammer 40,000: Darktide

Warhammer 40,000: Darktide

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livin' Jun 2, 2023 @ 10:01pm
whats the current meta weapons for veteran?
im starting to try out vet but there's a lot of weapons compared to ogryn
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Ishan451 Jun 2, 2023 @ 10:08pm 
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The workhorse is the Kantrael MG XII Infantry Lasgun. It's your jack of all trades, master of none. Its the one gun you can't really go wrong with, but also will eventually gravitate out of as you find your role.

Bolter and Helbore Lasgun (MK is personal reference) are weapons most gravitate into after the MG XII. The Bolter being your Anti-Big Guy option and the Helbore allowing you to lean more into the "sniping" role.

Some go Plasma Gun instead of Bolter... and Headhunter instead of Helbore... and some ditch the Veteran's role and instead play it like a discount Zealot with Infantry & Braced Autoguns, Autopistols, Revolver and Shotguns.

Recon Lasguns and Laspistol are the "troll" picks.
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Blaze Shadowflame Jun 2, 2023 @ 10:12pm 
Kantrael XII is what pretty much everyone is going to tell you first. High damage, and a good sight that makes it very easy to land headshots from any range. Works amazingly on anything that isn't using carapace armor.

If you want to try something else, I'd recommend a Helbore. It's a vet-only charge weapon that ignores carapace armor while still being useful for clearing out shooters. You'll find threads from the beta comparing the two, they are for the most part relatively equal with each other except the Helbore can take down elites faster at the cost of not having iron sights as nice as the Kantrael, so it's worth trying out.
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livin' Jun 2, 2023 @ 10:53pm 
Originally posted by Ishan451:
The workhorse is the Kantrael MG XII Infantry Lasgun. It's your jack of all trades, master of none. Its the one gun you can't really go wrong with, but also will eventually gravitate out of as you find your role.

Bolter and Helbore Lasgun (MK is personal reference) are weapons most gravitate into after the MG XII. The Bolter being your Anti-Big Guy option and the Helbore allowing you to lean more into the "sniping" role.

Some go Plasma Gun instead of Bolter... and Headhunter instead of Helbore... and some ditch the Veteran's role and instead play it like a discount Zealot with Infantry & Braced Autoguns, Autopistols, Revolver and Shotguns.

Recon Lasguns and Laspistol are the "troll" picks.
whats a good go to for melee? the mk3 knife seems decent
Last edited by livin'; Jun 2, 2023 @ 10:53pm
Catachan Mark IV Sword / Power Sword / Combat Axe / Trench Shovel

Autopistol / Autogun / Plasma / Bolter / Kantrael Lasgun / charged Lasgun

Damnation
Last edited by Who trains thy hands for war?; Jun 2, 2023 @ 11:09pm
Anri of Astora Jun 2, 2023 @ 11:16pm 
I facepalmed so hard on knife/shovel suggestions :steamfacepalm:
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livin' Jun 2, 2023 @ 11:21pm 
Originally posted by Decadence:
I facepalmed so hard on knife/shovel suggestions :steamfacepalm:
is knife bad?
Anri of Astora Jun 2, 2023 @ 11:27pm 
Originally posted by livin':
Originally posted by Decadence:
I facepalmed so hard on knife/shovel suggestions :steamfacepalm:
is knife bad?
Yes. Even zealots with dedicated bleed builds never use knives anymore. You might want to use tactical axe mk2 with decimator/brutal momentum if you want to run faster.
Ultra Jun 2, 2023 @ 11:33pm 
the best melee for me is the antax axe, with brutal momentum and headtaker or decimator, it works very good, while you get power sword with power cycler blessing (those two are at least my 2 melee weapons to go)

even when there is the kantrael XII and other weapons the boltgun is the best (at least for me), if you use the insta reload perk and 30% of speed when you kill an elite, you dont feel the reload that slow, but the only thing with the bolter is the ammo, a lot of players spam it on poxers, and honestly the best thing to do is use it on strong targets, or for example on a pinned teamate by a dog, it also scares the enemies soo you can use it to stop enemies around a downed teamate, i just find it to work in many situations, even when you are alone, if you have kantrael XII and the game decides to spawn 5 crushers well good luck...
I like the plasma gun. Does the damage of the bolter and has way more ammo. Obviously there are draw backs but thats why I like it.
BigJ Jun 3, 2023 @ 12:21am 
For melee:
Psword, Lsword (works well on crit, but raw power tends to do better), caxe, taxe.
For ranged:
Helbore 1/2, 3 is simply less ammo efficient and not worth the 1 less htk versus crushers, mk 2 is also 3 ammo per shot and regains 9 ammo on elite headshot.
The old mg12, a classic never gets old
Bolter, for anti armor and deleting mass armor/bosses
Plasma for when the elite/special os in the horde
Brauto when you expect many shooters and your team struggles against them
Vinyltavia Jun 3, 2023 @ 1:45am 
a lasgun with a fixed bayonet charging straight into the heretics.
o-o- Jun 3, 2023 @ 2:11am 
Meta would probably be the xii, bolt gun, plasma, shredder and braced. but i like to aim on veteran so i usually don't use shredder and braced. For melee imo would be powersword with power cycler and the Rashad axe with brutal momentum, you can also use the Antax axe but i don't use that because on veteran you can't spam block attacks so having a stagger block attack on the Rashad axe is pretty nice.
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Ishan451 Jun 3, 2023 @ 2:27am 
Originally posted by livin':
whats a good go to for melee? the mk3 knife seems decent

As Veteran you'll want a weapon that can dispatch a few stragglers coming your way. This means your best pick is a Combat Axe. All 3 combat axes can oneshot Poxwalkers. With Brutal Momentum you can turn the Combat Axe in an all round melee choice. Heavy Attacks for Crushers and everything else will do with Light Attacks.

Antax Combat Axe was the preferred choice for a long time, but Achlys and Rashad, especially since the Rashad fix, also work very well for the Veteran. The Antax has a Cleave Stat where the Rashad and Achlys have a Penetration Stat. This means the Antax is better for Hordes and the other two better for armored enemies.

That being said, the "Meta" way to play the Veteran, however, is to stay as much as possible out of Melee, and as such there are two more defensive minded picks to consider.

Particularily the Shovel and the Knife because they have a lot of Dodge and Dodge Distance, allowing you to disengage from the Horde. The Shovel also has a special attack that can stunlock a crusher and has a good push/shove, but it isn't great at killing stuff. The Knife provides the most mobility and is very quick to draw, even without Blessings and Zealot Crit Talents you can one shot Flamers on Damnation with a heavy attack. So its not the worst at killing things but like Tactical Axes it takes ages to kill a horde due to the single target focus.

Both Shovel and Knife suffer in the "Killing department" which is why you will have a lot of people scoff at the pick for Damnation.

The Powersword used to be the crutch pick. It is still the pick of everyone that wants to kill stuff. These days you need a Power Cycler Blessing, and if you cannot find Power Cycler Blessing you don't even need to bother with it.

Personally i would argue that the fact that you need to charge it to have it be useful makes the Power Sword a bad pick. A Combat Axe allows you to pull the weapon and oneshot a Poxwalker. A Power Sword you need to pull the weapon and then charge it or you will do a pittance of damage, all in all it takes twice to trice as long to dispatch a single enemy and an Antax Combat axe is barely worse at dealing with a Horde, if you give it Brutal Momentum.

Chainsword has a very strong push, but there is a reason you do not see many people with it. It is awkward to use due to the move set and the special can get you killed, even though its a lot of fun sawing stuff in half.

Tactical Axes... everything they provide for the Veteran the Knife does better and their Single Target Focus makes them a poor pick. Catachan Blades... i haven't touched in ages. With the right Blessing Combination they can be quite killy in a horde, but they are a poor choice against Elites. They have a lot of stagger, which can help against Ragers, tho. But they absolutely suck against Ogryns. Which is why i would rather bring a Shovel than a Catachan Blade. The Shovel at least can stunlock them, the Catachan Blade... if you get caught out by a Crusher.. there is little you can do.

Anyway, the Workhorse pick is a Combat Axe. It will do everything you need it to. The Power Sword is imho the noob trap. It breeds a lot of bad habits. But if you can't melee and are just looking for something to swing around while you stand still and let Cameo do the work for you, then Power Sword can work.

My personal recommendation however is: Find the melee weapon you are most comfortable with. The important thing is for you to survive the horde and quickly dispatch a few stragglers so you can be back on overwatch doing what you should be doing: Murder Specials and Ranged enemies. Your job is not the Horde and the less time you spend in melee the better.
Last edited by Ishan451; Jun 3, 2023 @ 2:31am
Bovril Brigadier Jun 3, 2023 @ 2:58am 
Depends on the difficulty you are playing on.
If you are doing Heresy and above and you don't have blessed out weapons you'll want to use generally for melee are axes in particular combat axes. They provide the damage, penetration and a quick interrupt attack. Most importantly, they give you the ability to dodge which will get you out of a lot of sticky situations. If you get a blessed out one they really become your go to weapon.
For ranged you'll want to stick with XII Lasgun, Bolter or Plasma Gun

If going Malice and below well go nuts. Just keep mind that weapons like the Autopistol and Recon Lasguns are fun but chew through ammo at an alarming rate, people will get annoyed if you hold down the fire button constantly with them.
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