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senate Jun 1, 2023 @ 1:34am
Astartes Project YT short movie Q the hooded psyker ?
New to the lore. He's a psyker ? What is the Orb and what happens to him and the orb when he connects ?
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Nihil Jun 1, 2023 @ 1:47am 
I'm guessing you are refering to a youtube video?
Would you pls also add it to the thread? Will make it much easier.
Munchies Jun 1, 2023 @ 1:55am 
He is pondering his orb ...
Ishan451 Jun 1, 2023 @ 1:56am 
Originally posted by senate:
New to the lore.

Then let's start with the fact that what you watched is entirely a fan creation with no real basis in the lore, beyond what people might read into it.

Edit: Oh and while we are at it... it also absolutely glorifies the Smurfs and shows them in a very unrealistic power level of taking multiple shots from heavy lass cannons, autocannons and so on and so forth, without taking meaningful damage.

The whole Astartes Project is a great fan project, but it doesn't get more mary sue than that /edit

Originally posted by senate:
He's a psyker ?

Yes, that is quite likely and an Inquisitor at that, given the proposed nature of the device, it would be strange if a regular Agent would have been put in charge of this. It is much more likely it was an actual Inquisitor (a lot of which are Psykers).

Originally posted by senate:
What is the Orb

That is anyone's guess. At the face of it it is a cool macguffin. Fan theories range from Archeotech to the Fantasy Flight invention of the Yu'vath and their Demonposessed Technology.

Originally posted by senate:
and what happens to him and the orb when he connects ?

Best we can tell he is cast through the network of spheres to an unknown location. From the shortfilm we can deduce that the sphere is connected to other spheres. The one the Space Smurfs attack seems to be connected to the one the Inquisitor is attached to on a different ship, which seems to be connected to other spheres.

AFAIK the creator never said what it was meant to be and prefers it to remain ambiguous. Since Gamesworkshop forced him to sign away his rights and enter a slave contract it could be that we'll see some answers in the upcoming Astartes II project. Despite him originally saying that he wouldn't continue it. Which is why you see Yellow skittle smurfs in the end. Those were supposed to be his next project and the Astartes Fanfilm was meant to be stand alone. A vintage of something that happened somewhere in the imperium.

So who knows. Maybe you'll get your answers in the next one. It was announced some 2 years ago or so, so chances are it will hit Warhammer Plus by next year.

Originally posted by Nihil:
I'm guessing you are refering to a youtube video?

That would be ill adviced as it would be linking to Pirated content and Steam doesn't like that sort of thing.

The Original Astartes parts were removed by GW when they acquired the rights. Or rather, promised not to sue the living daylight out of him, if he just comes work for them :D
Last edited by Ishan451; Jun 1, 2023 @ 2:12am
Originally posted by senate:
New to the lore. He's a psyker ? What is the Orb and what happens to him and the orb when he connects ?

He has a nice chat after eavesdropping on the Yu'Vath, then the alpha tries to possess him, then the chapter master and beaky vet explodes him, then his soul attacks the Yu'Vath Alpha in the warp and explodes it, cause he's an absolute bro despite being an inquisitor and thus saves the marines.

emprah proteccs
Last edited by Grr. [SG CMD] Majah Lazah; Jun 1, 2023 @ 3:01am
Vanta Jun 1, 2023 @ 2:32am 
Originally posted by Grr. SG CMD Majah Lazah:
Originally posted by senate:
New to the lore. He's a psyker ? What is the Orb and what happens to him and the orb when he connects ?

He has a nice chat after eavesdropping on the Yu'Vath, then the alpha tries to possess him, then the chapter master and beaky vet explodes him, then his soul attcks the Yu'Vath Alpha in the warp and explodes it, cause he's an absolute bro despite being an inquisitor and thus saves the marines.

emprah proteccs
I was always under the impression the thing in the warp was just a Daemon/Warp entity that saw the thing in the warp and decided to go have a meal
SeR!ous2k Jun 1, 2023 @ 2:39am 
Best guess the Orb is some scary deamon
Vid explains rly nice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bvZQpWdc70

ps: I also just stumbled upon this crazy fan animation
we need Astartes II the movie hype
Last edited by SeR!ous2k; Jun 1, 2023 @ 2:46am
Foxxy Renamon Jun 1, 2023 @ 2:58am 
My personal theory of the orb is that it's a dormant/sleeping Umbra...
Originally posted by Operator Vanta:
Originally posted by Grr. SG CMD Majah Lazah:

He has a nice chat after eavesdropping on the Yu'Vath, then the alpha tries to possess him, then the chapter master and beaky vet explodes him, then his soul attcks the Yu'Vath Alpha in the warp and explodes it, cause he's an absolute bro despite being an inquisitor and thus saves the marines.

emprah proteccs
I was always under the impression the thing in the warp was just a Daemon/Warp entity that saw the thing in the warp and decided to go have a meal

The Yu'Vath are an already established thing in lore.

Alpha Inquistor Psykers exploding psychic beings on their way to the afterlife are an already established thing.

If there was something in the warp capable of eating the Yu'Vath it would have ate the Marines as well because the Yu'Vath literally live in the warp natively. Secondly we already know from the previous sequence the Inquisitor's soul shows up as black in the warp.

All there in the video.
Last edited by Grr. [SG CMD] Majah Lazah; Jun 1, 2023 @ 3:06am
Ishan451 Jun 1, 2023 @ 3:13am 
Originally posted by Grr. SG CMD Majah Lazah:
The Yu'Vath are an already established thing in lore.

Only if one wants to consider Fantasy Flight's nonsense to be part of the lore. And considering that a lot of Fantasy Flight's stuff conflicts with established lore, that is not a given.
Originally posted by Ishan451:
Originally posted by Grr. SG CMD Majah Lazah:
The Yu'Vath are an already established thing in lore.

Only if one wants to consider Fantasy Flight's nonsense to be part of the lore. And considering that a lot of Fantasy Flight's stuff conflicts with established lore, that is not a given.

Only if Syama Pederson already flatly stated the antagonist of the piece is the Yu'Vath.
Ishan451 Jun 1, 2023 @ 5:58am 
Originally posted by Grr. SG CMD Majah Lazah:
Only if Syama Pederson already flatly stated the antagonist of the piece is the Yu'Vath.

As i said... Yu'Vath are a Fantasy Flight creation for their roleplay games. Gamesworkshop generally does not touch 3rd party creations, beyond maybe mentioning they exist.

And the whole thing was, at the time of its creation, a pure fan project that doesn't even portrait the powerlevel of the Smurfs right.

Now that GW owns this, there is nothing that prevents them from retconning the entirety of it in Astartes II, which was already announced in 2021.
Originally posted by Ishan451:
Originally posted by Grr. SG CMD Majah Lazah:
Only if Syama Pederson already flatly stated the antagonist of the piece is the Yu'Vath.

As i said... Yu'Vath are a Fantasy Flight creation for their roleplay games. Gamesworkshop generally does not touch 3rd party creations, beyond maybe mentioning they exist.

And the whole thing was, at the time of its creation, a pure fan project that doesn't even portrait the powerlevel of the Smurfs right.

Now that GW owns this, there is nothing that prevents them from retconning the entirety of it in Astartes II, which was already announced in 2021.

It is, in fact on the most accurate powerlevel portrayals, down to contrail exhaust and warp moisture temperature coalescence, which is why the man got hired in the first place.

People like you and Harukage pick the stupidest depressions to die in. Where on the Marneus Calgar doll FF touched you in is immaterial to the plot or exposition of the piece.

Man asked a question and got it answered and your opinion don't n'ere naught nonce non even enter into it and is literally an entirely separate paradigm.
Last edited by Grr. [SG CMD] Majah Lazah; Jun 1, 2023 @ 9:43am
Ishan451 Jun 1, 2023 @ 11:06am 
Originally posted by Grr. SG CMD Majah Lazah:
in fact on the most accurate powerlevel portrayals

Spoken like a true fanboy. The "heretics" are shooting with autocannons and heavy lasers at the Space Marines and the Space marines are shown to shrug off multiple direct hits from both, with their armor taking not as much as a scratch from Anti-vehicle weaponry that makes short work of much thicker and harder armor.

And the fact that you respond with a complete shifting of goalposts to me pointing out that the Yu'Vath are 3rd Party creations does show that you have no arguments against this. Nor the fact that Gamesworkshop does not generally reference 3rd Party Licensed stuff in more than vague references. Like it is the case with the 5th Chaos God Malal, the Sons of Malice and even the Blood Ravens. All who get, at most, a quick mention to hook in the fans of the Video games and the like.

So yes, it is highly dubious if the Astartes II, if it even connects to the fan Project at all, will continue or not outright retcon the Astartes I stuff.

Originally posted by Grr. SG CMD Majah Lazah:
which is why the man got hired in the first place

The guy got hired because he is a good animator that made a popular fanvideo, in which the Space Marines are super cool and larger than life. Which pleased a lot of people. It is a very awesome video, but it is NOT very lore accurate. It takes a lot of liberties and creative licenses to achieve said awesomeness.

Originally posted by Grr. SG CMD Majah Lazah:
People like you and Harukage pick the stupidest depressions to die in.

That sentence makes no sense.

Originally posted by Grr. SG CMD Majah Lazah:
Where on the Marneus Calgar doll FF touched you in is immaterial to the plot or exposition of the piece.

Yes, it is very material when we are talking about someone new to the lore to point out that this was not a very accurate representation featuring potentially non existent Xenos.

Fantasy Flight Games no longer publish the Pen&Paper games, and as such it is likely that we'll never hear from Yu'Vath again, and it is easy for Gamesworkshop to retcon what we have seen in Astartes I into just generic Demonengine stuff and heretics.

Originally posted by Grr. SG CMD Majah Lazah:
your opinion

... was not given.

It is a Fact that the Astartes Video is not lore accurate, but taking creative licenses to make the Space Marines seem cooler. It is a fact that Gamesworkshop generally does not touch 3rd Party stuff, other than some minor references and never bases their actual 1st party stuff on any of the 3rd Party stuff. It is also a fact that Fantasy Flight took a lot of creative liberties that contradict actual first party lore.

None of this is my opinion.
Repentance† Jun 1, 2023 @ 11:41am 
Originally posted by Ishan451:
Originally posted by senate:
New to the lore.

Then let's start with the fact that what you watched is entirely a fan creation with no real basis in the lore, beyond what people might read into it.

Edit: Oh and while we are at it... it also absolutely glorifies the Smurfs and shows them in a very unrealistic power level of taking multiple shots from heavy lass cannons, autocannons and so on and so forth, without taking meaningful damage.

The whole Astartes Project is a great fan project, but it doesn't get more mary sue than that /edit

Originally posted by senate:
He's a psyker ?

Yes, that is quite likely and an Inquisitor at that, given the proposed nature of the device, it would be strange if a regular Agent would have been put in charge of this. It is much more likely it was an actual Inquisitor (a lot of which are Psykers).

Originally posted by senate:
What is the Orb

That is anyone's guess. At the face of it it is a cool macguffin. Fan theories range from Archeotech to the Fantasy Flight invention of the Yu'vath and their Demonposessed Technology.

Originally posted by senate:
and what happens to him and the orb when he connects ?

Best we can tell he is cast through the network of spheres to an unknown location. From the shortfilm we can deduce that the sphere is connected to other spheres. The one the Space Smurfs attack seems to be connected to the one the Inquisitor is attached to on a different ship, which seems to be connected to other spheres.

AFAIK the creator never said what it was meant to be and prefers it to remain ambiguous. Since Gamesworkshop forced him to sign away his rights and enter a slave contract it could be that we'll see some answers in the upcoming Astartes II project. Despite him originally saying that he wouldn't continue it. Which is why you see Yellow skittle smurfs in the end. Those were supposed to be his next project and the Astartes Fanfilm was meant to be stand alone. A vintage of something that happened somewhere in the imperium.

So who knows. Maybe you'll get your answers in the next one. It was announced some 2 years ago or so, so chances are it will hit Warhammer Plus by next year.

Originally posted by Nihil:
I'm guessing you are refering to a youtube video?

That would be ill adviced as it would be linking to Pirated content and Steam doesn't like that sort of thing.

The Original Astartes parts were removed by GW when they acquired the rights. Or rather, promised not to sue the living daylight out of him, if he just comes work for them :D
I feel that you have no clue on what you are talking about, You drop smurf and that specifically refers to Ultra Marines which are not the chapter in this video.

You claim Heavy laz when in fact what is in the video is a multi laser, which can be stopped by power armor.

While your claim on Auto Canon could be debated of what is show in the video, regardless what it is it never lands a hit.

Yu' Vath could be maybe not maybe cannon maybe not. Lutin summed 40k lore the best. Everything is cannon and nothing is cannon.

Watch the video like the video, it is a solid representation of the 40k universe
Black Magic (Banned) Jun 1, 2023 @ 11:48am 
Originally posted by Grr. SG CMD Majah Lazah:
Originally posted by Operator Vanta:
I was always under the impression the thing in the warp was just a Daemon/Warp entity that saw the thing in the warp and decided to go have a meal

The Yu'Vath are an already established thing in lore.

Alpha Inquistor Psykers exploding psychic beings on their way to the afterlife are an already established thing.

If there was something in the warp capable of eating the Yu'Vath it would have ate the Marines as well because the Yu'Vath literally live in the warp natively. Secondly we already know from the previous sequence the Inquisitor's soul shows up as black in the warp.

All there in the video.
I never noticed that about the Psyker's soul nuking the Yu'vath before in Astartes.

The guy's attention to detail is superb.
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