Your crafting loop

[raμza84]

Please share your crafting loop / mental processes with us. I know I'm being terribly inefficient with my decisions, and I'd like to know what you guys are doing.
For example, do you even look at "Brunt's armoury"?
If you get good stats on a green but when you upgrade it to blue, you're unlucky and get a terrible blessing, do you continue? Or reroll the blessing already, because maybe there are better chances to get a tier III or IV, when upgrading from purple to orange?
Or you just wait for good gear from Sire Melk and don't bother with anything else?

[Fingeris]

Items with a 370+ base rating are always the best options for 3-4 tier blessings.

And mostly you need only 1 to proc.

[ThePaleHunter]

Unfortunately crafting is RNG. To get a blessing Melk is the first stop, but if you want to roll the dice you buy greys from Brunt's Armory till you get a good item level roll - 360 370ish? or better - then you consecrate it to blue for a blessing.

The other gamble is upgrading your weapon further - it's really stupid there's a good chance to have a level 1 sprint perk or terrible blessing locked to an otherwise great weapon which means you throw it away.

You repeat this process till you used up all your mats and still haven't got the blessing you're looking for, then you log out for a few weeks.

[Captain Super Credit]

Earn Ordo by completing missions.

Buy Weapons from Brunts armory with Ordo. Buy as many as to get 2x 370+ weapons (with stats in areas you like... ammo, finesse, stopping power, first target etc).

Upgrade the LOWER than 370- Weapons to BLUE, and strip all the blessings off them until you have all the blessings.

Upgrade the 370+ Weapons when you have enough Blessings accumulated so that you can make it pretty good.

Keep one weapon above 500 for Damnation Runs.

Run a bunch of malice and Damnation runs to farm Plasteel & Ordo & Melk Contracts.

Repeat the process trying to build 510+ weapons for all your builds... then.. I imagine... keep doing the same until you craft a super weapon.

Keep an Eye out at Melk's armory for good gear (either great builds OR thos hard to get IV Blessings).

[Judge Lazar]

Step one: Stockpile every single weapon with decent stat bars you come across.

Step 2: Pick the one you want to use, upgrade it to blue. If it doesn't have a blessing and perk you're satisfied with, scrap it, start over.

Step 3: Once you have that blue weapon with stats, one perk and one blessing you like, do not touch it.

Step 4: Buy mass amounts of weapons off Brunt's armory. Upgrade them to blue and no farther, this is how you farm blessings. One heresy mission with books should be enough to bring one weapon from grey to blue.

Repeat until you unlock the second blessing you want to put on your weapon, upgrade said weapon.

You just have to get lucky, that's about it. My best weapon on my veteran is a Graia BAG that I've had since before the game "launched" never found one yet with superior stats. Honestly, I wouldn't spend a whole lot of time worrying about getting a perfect weapon. They're going to introduce master crafted weapons (red) at some point, it can't be that far off. I'd suggest you find a weapon you like using for now and save your resources.

[luZk]

I do a match, then if the shop has changed I check all my 4 characters shop, buy whatever looks good, continues playing, maybe bless and test if really good and go back to playing.

[Joikax]

Personally:
After patches if I'm really looking to test a new weapon then eventually start using it as part of my core loadouts I sift through Brunt's armoury. If I'm not in a hurry then I just stockpile good items from the standard requisition tab. At this point I already have most of what I want so I can afford to be picky. In either case the process is as follows:

1) Check if the core stats for the weapon in question are all above 70 (Damage, Stopping Power, Finesse, Cloud Radius, etc. Penetration gets heavy diminishing returns past 60 so I'm fine with 60 and above). For classes like Zealot and Ogryn I also value mobity above 60.

2) If I'm really minmaxing and already have a decent weapon then refer to point 1 but with damage stats at 78+.

3) Check Wartide.net/calc to figure out what breakpoints I can achieve and whether or not a certain perk (with or without a certain blessing) can make a big difference against certain enemies I expect to be dealing with a lot with the weapon in question. (I'll say this again, I can afford to be picky thus I am; While looking for just a decent enough weapon I tend to not care about breakpoints and I don't recomend anyone doing so either or you'll trash a lot of actually good weapon)

4) Based on the previous point, consecrate the item until it's exalted tier (purple), since that's the point where you get two perks and you can only reroll one. If the combo is not optimal or on the unrerollable perk I ended up with, for example, a T2 version when I needed a T3 or above to reach a certain important breakpoint that's an item I put on the shelf for the time being, and return to point 1 to repeat the whole process again.

5) If the perk combo is satisfactory I consecrate yet again. Once more, now with blessings, if the combo and respective tiers are not what I was looking for even upon rerolling then the item is put on the shelf. Maybe I'll find use for it later or end up sacrificing it to earn a blessing.

(Extra) 6) Going back to the item refered in point 4: if I end up finding a better one or find no use for it even after sometime I consider consecrating it one last time to reach Transcendant (gold) in the offchance it rolls a T4 blessing I can scrap off of it.



Melk offers a lot of pretty decent items, it's very worthwhile to get items off him to use when you are just starting out your lvl30 grind for better items. Eventually you'll start using him only to grab T4 blessings.

[Arani]

Originally posted by raμza84:

Please share your crafting loop / mental processes with us. I know I'm being terribly inefficient with my decisions, and I'd like to know what you guys are doing.
For example, do you even look at "Brunt's armoury"?
If you get good stats on a green but when you upgrade it to blue, you're unlucky and get a terrible blessing, do you continue? Or reroll the blessing already, because maybe there are better chances to get a tier III or IV, when upgrading from purple to orange?
Or you just wait for good gear from Sire Melk and don't bother with anything else?

It really depends. I never log in just "because", that RNG can be whatever it is. That said I do play daily so I get to check the weekly token store at least once a day on each character.

But for basics really I check the regular store whenever I happen to be around, Any weapons with the right stats, even stuff I don't use, I buy just in case for the future. Greens are good for farming blessings anyway so if there's a weapon type I really like I tend to buy them regardless of their stats. That's the long term investment

On short term, if I really want to get a good weapon of a specific type, I burn around 300-500k on that weapon in Brunt's armory. Because anything under that is probably not going to get me even a single good one with the right stats and good base stats in general. Then I start upgrading and I tend to always take them at least to purple. Because perks are generally more important than blessings, given that blessings for most weapons just suck so they don't make that much of a difference outside of the one you can rebless anyway. Of course there are exceptions but this depends on the weapon.

But if the weapon has like +stamina and +sprint by purple then it flies instantly to the trash. Most other options fly to the trash too. Again, depends on the weapon and the build I had in mind for it. :> But at least one of the perks needs to be useful, so I can then reroll the other one.

As for the rerolling bit, I open EarTrumpet, mute the game sounds, open Netflix or D+ or whatever and start spamming the reroll for a few minutes, then watch whatever show I want for a few minutes, rinse and repeat until I get the perk I want. This is the part I hate the most, and I've started to just settle for +20% dmg perks with for example my oggy since I don't main him anyway.

As for materials, I generally don't upgrade all the time. I already have my builds and getting anything better involves far too much RNG. So I just play the game and by the time I feel like crafting something new I will have some 4-5k plasteel waiting for me.

[Dr. Merkwürdiglieben]

Originally posted by raμza84:

Please share your (...) mental processes with us.

Look Doc!

I'm still working that out myself!
36 Years and not yet close.....
I can't give you an answer to something, which I don't understand myself!

[varicose 'vascular' vinny]

Just keep hurling plasteel into the craft pit. Clearing T5 seems to spit out random irrelevant ones at an OK rate. Stay current on your Melkbux. The real issue is how rare decent weapons appear, and how often the bars trash them. Like all my old 380s that specifically got dumpstered damage roll, as if 380s weren't already non existent (like right now where they literally can't drop).

[Triggerhappy]

there is no crafting loop. It's rng. It's spray and pray, no method to it. If it happens it happens, but it most likely won't.

[Bloodwest]

it's been forever since i got anything worthwhile from normal shop, brunt's armory occasionally spits out something interesting stat-wise but then i consecrate it and acquire bad blessings combo (low-tiered and/or bad quality), allowing to secure only 1 good blessing through re-bless. at this point Melk's limited stuff is the only somewhat reliable source of upgrades - you wait for item with better stats with at least 1 blessings of your liking (and perk if you're lucky enough), then just re-bless and refine to get a bit closer to ideal.

[Silhouette]

Grind, grind, grind, grind.

Craft.

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Craft.

Grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind,
grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind.

Craft.

(lol, but seriously, I just buy grey weapons from the shop, pray they’re 370+ with a decent stat distribution, and consecrate/refine them.)

[nakoda]

I woudn't put points in to anything below a 350. You can get a lucky 350 with a good dump stat. Without a good dump stat, I wouldn't spend mats on anything below a 370.

I very often do not upgrade from purple to orange if I am not feeling the RNG. if the perks aren't going to get me what I want, I don't bother wasting another 700 plasteel on a blessing I probably already have.

Now, when you are just starting to collect blessings, you want to just spam as many consecrations as you can to build up your library.

[raμza84]

Thank you all, many interesting ideas! So far I ignored Brunt's Armoryr, this was my mistake that I'm going to remedy